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FDP Forum / Fender Amps: Vintage (before 1985) / The Princeton Reverb II (Rivera era PRII) Conclave

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Stratopastor

Stockton-on-Tees

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Mar 17th, 2018 10:26 AM   Edit   Profile  

Thanks. Seems obvious now. :-)

littleuch
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Mar 17th, 2018 11:01 AM   Edit   Profile  

ANOS = Andrew's Nasty Old Sovteks.

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Mar 17th, 2018 11:04 AM   Edit   Profile  

(-:

Stratopastor

Stockton-on-Tees

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Mar 21st, 2018 06:13 AM   Edit   Profile  

At first glance I thought you were dissing my socks.

Stratopastor

Stockton-on-Tees

now even awesomer
Jun 1st, 2018 01:25 PM   Edit   Profile  

I think the PRII scores rather well.

article - pet peeves about amp design

socal
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California

Jul 14th, 2018 04:19 PM   Edit   Profile  

Well, had 3 PR2s. Traded one (that I paid $500 for w/ footswitch) for an '82 Super Champ! One of the remaining PR2s is absolute mint w/ footswitch. Good story. Probably will sell it at some point. Keeping the last one. Bought off eBay from Music Dungeon NY for $850 w/footswitch. Had good nos tubes & Mesa Boogie-branded 150watt 12" 8ohm Emi speaker. Took that speaker out (now have 2 of them - good speakers) and put in an EV 12L. (Amp wasn't heavy enuff as is). May put in a '66 Jensen c12n with original cone. Bought 3 new oem Fender PR2 covers. Read all of Stratopastor's website and FDP Rivera info (tho don't think Paul really designed it). Luv the solid, no-expense spared pine cab. Really quality-made amp, tho some don't care for the sound. Ok, that's all for now I guess.

(This message was last edited by socal at 06:40 PM, Jul 14th, 2018)

Stratopastor

Stockton-on-Tees

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Jul 18th, 2018 03:47 PM   Edit   Profile  

Paul R spec'd the amp but Ed Jahns designed it.

Have I got your amps' serial numbers yet?

Stratopastor

Stockton-on-Tees

now even awesomer
Jul 18th, 2018 03:49 PM   Edit   Profile  

This is what a spectrum analysis looks like of my PRII - playing a clean 3rd fret barred G chord, as consistently as I could on a Mex Strat neck pickup, while winding down the mid control from 10 to 1. I knew the mid control on a traditional Fender tone stack affects the whole spectrum but I didn't know it did this... (unless there's something wrong with mine!)

I think I'll stick to mid = 4 for a while and see how it goes...

linky

socal
Contributing Member

California

Jul 19th, 2018 12:55 PM   Edit   Profile  

Hi SP, Will get the serial #'s to you. Not where PR2s are right now, bro.

Stratopastor

Stockton-on-Tees

now even awesomer
Jul 19th, 2018 03:04 PM   Edit   Profile  

Thanks! there's no hurry... this project is 14 years old and counting...

Iversen

Denmark

Jul 28th, 2018 02:14 AM   Edit   Profile  

Analysis paralysis! What is the takeaway from your charts, Stratopastor? My understanding is that you seem to get the widest possible frequency range with the middle control set to 4. Is this correct?

Stratopastor

Stockton-on-Tees

now even awesomer
Aug 20th, 2018 01:32 PM   Edit   Profile  

Hi Iversen... sorry to reply so late. Yep, that's pretty much it, but it's not for a wide respone - just a response with few spikes in the upper midrange. The irony is, my band has too many people on holiday (vacation) right now, so I can't really test it yet!

socal
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California

Aug 22nd, 2018 01:29 AM   Edit   Profile  

So SP, how are PRIIs regarded in Merry Ol' England? 'Bout the same as in the US? Are PRIIs & the other Fender Rivera amp range as well-known in the UK as the more famous Fender amps? Are PRIIs scarce in the UK & the other countries in Europe? Prices the same as in the US? (There's even more ?'s if these aren't enough, bro.)

(This message was last edited by socal at 03:32 AM, Aug 22nd, 2018)

Stratopastor

Stockton-on-Tees

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Aug 22nd, 2018 03:39 AM   Edit   Profile  

hi socal

(a) 'bout the same as in the US
(b) no
(c) Here in Europe there aren't as many older Fender amps in circulation as in the US. My guess would be that Rivera-era amps here are in the same proportion to pre-'82 Fenders as the proportion found in the US. However there are more Rivera-era Fenders in Germany and especially Sweden than you might guess from the population size, which makes me think Fender had a particularly clever sales guy in that territory around '82-86.
(d) Prices on PRIIs in the UK tend to be the same numbers as in the US, but in £ not $. The prices are therefore actually higher. I think that's true for most US-made gear.

I hope this helps! :-)

socal
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California

Jan 12th, 2019 08:56 AM   Edit   Profile  

Hey SP, Apologies for the delay in replying to you (life happened). Thanks for the UK & Europe info on Fender Rivera amps. Want to visit England one day, so have always been interested in the UK view of Fender gear. Thank you again, much appreciated!

Btw, from your profile it seems as if you like solid-state rectifier amps (except for perhaps the Electar amp). If this is true, would you please tell me what are some of your reasons for this? (Interested because I consider you the PRII authority.)

Hope you are well & Happy New Year to you!


Stratopastor

Stockton-on-Tees

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Jan 14th, 2019 04:21 AM   Edit   Profile  

Hi socal - no need for an apology, life certainly does happen. Let me check - I think it's happening to me right now - yep....

The solid-state thing is pure random and I don't have enough experience to have a preference. If my first quality amp had been tube-rectified, who knows, I might have hated s/s rectification. I played a friend's PRRI lately (tube recto) and loved it. As it happens the Electar is s/s too, being 1990s and not the 1940s amp it is trying to reference.

In general s/s rectification has more punch and doesn't 'sag', so you get a harder-hitting sound but none of the compression effect, which some love, when playing loud.

I'd be interested to hear from anyone who has inserted a sag resistor... how did it behave? what value did you use? (resistance and wattage)

all the best

SP



Stratopastor

Stockton-on-Tees

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Apr 29th, 2019 05:03 PM   Edit   Profile  

Does anyone set the Master to 10 and then adjust Volume for the required, er, volume? I've always set Volume to 10 and adjusted Master...

littleuch
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Paunchy and goatee'd
Apr 30th, 2019 08:42 AM   Edit   Profile  

I have to go back a number of years now to recall my gigging days, but think I ran both about even, maybe 7 on volume and 5 on master. Currently my settings are V2.5, T5, M6, B5, R4, L0, M2.5, P5. These are my "condo-closet settings". :-)



Stratopastor

Stockton-on-Tees

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May 6th, 2019 07:27 AM   Edit   Profile  

I've been experimenting (after owning the amp for 17 years... duh). The amp gains extra highs, when the master is turned up. v=4 m=10 is the same volume as v=10 m=3 but the latter sounds dull compared the former. The extra harmonics come through at the cost of a little more noise. Also (and I guess obviously) the presence control has a lot more effect when the master is high.

Stratopastor

Stockton-on-Tees

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May 21st, 2019 02:23 AM   Edit   Profile  

Couple of rehearsals later, I'm going to stick with this.

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