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Rockyroller Cat

USA/NJ

Flee from me keepers of the gloom
Jul 24th, 2010 10:05 AM Edit Profile Print Topic Search Topic
Did I say never again for an originals band. Just kick me. Old school hard rock band had there ad on CL for months, maybe the heat wave got me but I responded.

Anyway story was the last guy was a guitar playing genius drunk homeless hot head in and out of jail for beating women real deal emotional problems smashed equipment begged money and needed rides and a bottle to practice ect ect. I figured after that I'm in.

I learned 5 of their songs and we hit it off real good at the audition. I was hoping to key off of the rhythm guitar as the songs were totally new to me but I had to stand and deliver with out him and I held my own pretty good.

Everything was totally positive, looks like we have lift off, so I came home and put in a ton of work from the CD they gave me. Everything sounds great and I'm pumped for the next session.

A few days later their ad is back up on CL wow, buzz kill.

Here's my question, would you go all out fully committing time and effort to maybe get pushed off a cliff? None of these original songs will cross over into a cover band, all effort will be lost save finger exercise.

Should I hold back a little and depend on the friendship factor? I've been burned before with originals bands big time.

Thanks,
RRC

Tony Wright
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Jul 24th, 2010 05:49 PM Edit Profile Print Topic Search Topic
Well, I would follow up with a call to the band and ask if they were "still looking for Mr Right".

Then politely inform them that there is a reason they cannot find "the perfect person"...he is serving out his sentence for beating wimmin...and upon release, he is court ordered into drug and alcohol rehab.

Then when they call you back in a couple of weeks, just politely tell them that your psychic told you they were doomed to failure and that they would never be more than a rehearsal party band, doomed to stay in the garage (or basement) for all their days.

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Jul 24th, 2010 08:53 PM Edit Profile Print Topic Search Topic
That is GOOD advice (as usual from Mister Wright) right there. Any band that tolerates this kind of behavior for any length of time needs to be left alone. Unless you're really into drama, three strikes and you're out.

Many times, especially with originals bands, they're looking for a player that's just "this" or "that" style-wise, and their criteria is too narrow...it excludes many players that could actually *bring* some style and uniqueness to the band's sound.

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Jul 25th, 2010 12:09 PM Edit Profile Print Topic Search Topic
Rocky, I could have told you that they were too picky.

Could I have a ride to see my parole officer, and borrow $20 to stop off and get a pint from Tiny's Liquors on the way? My ex-sister-in-law's niece just threw me out again. She doesn't understand my genius.

Fritz_D_Cat
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Jul 25th, 2010 01:51 PM Edit Profile Print Topic Search Topic
I swear some folk don't get a rush unless you bring some DRAMA.

acplayer

MA

Earn while you learn
Jul 25th, 2010 09:25 PM Edit Profile Print Topic Search Topic
Hey Tony Wright (another Mike M "ism")
Some bands are destined to move forward and gig (sometime too soon but the vibe/drive IS there...)..these band usually last a while as they g-i-g!!.. while some are happy with rehearsing (to death) while switching members (my experience: "down the talent chain...") until they will never have the talent to get out of the garage.

There is enough drama (musicianship/ego/vibe, etc.) in most professional groups that are performing regularly.

Cat:
I'd drop them like a dirty shirt.... they may not want you as they renewed the CL ad..
My advise:
Start you own band!!!
My TCW
Mike M

My classical ensemble

Tony Wright
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Stillwater, OK

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Jul 25th, 2010 10:43 PM Edit Profile Print Topic Search Topic
Hey ya'll, watch out for that Dolemite character...I know for a fact that he used to sneak into the drive in movies...

...And I know that a pint at Tiny's is a lot less than $20...

(however the ex-SIL niece is a hottie

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Mike M...I was in one of those "rehearse til you drop" bands for 14 months. We played 9 gigs during that time. Three were "freebies".

Everytime we got "close" to sounding good, we lost or gained another player. How fun to spend all the time rehearsing the same crap so the new guy could learn the material.

The punchline...I had to drive 75 miles one way to rehearsal. Finally, I had a lot more than I wanted of that relationship. My current band rehearses in my living room.

Rockyroller Cat

USA/NJ

Flee from me keepers of the gloom
Jul 28th, 2010 10:36 PM Edit Profile Print Topic Search Topic
1st practice was tolerable with ear plugs in. 2nd practice the rhythm guitar showed up and everything got louder and was super stupid loud.

I guess I'm officially too old to rock and roll.

I was standing in front of a cranked 100w 4x12 half stack and I could barely hear myself playing my boosted lead solos. The drummer was banging so hard he was breaking sticks that were flying across the room like spinning spears of death and the PA was so loud it literally had me plastered against the wall like a small wet animal against a hurricane of booming sound. All in a 25' x 30' room with a low ceiling.

Needless to say I left early. I was there for 1-1/2 hours with full block ear plugs and my head is still ringing 4 hours later.

I wonder if they know I'm not coming back LOL. The funny thing is I played their songs better than they did but, how would they ever know?

RRC
(This message was last edited by Rockyroller Cat at 10:44 PM, Jul 28th, 2010)

golfmann

Cuba, MO USA

Jul 29th, 2010 07:48 AM Edit Profile Print Topic Search Topic
Great story... :)

had to lol

Twangmeister
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Jul 29th, 2010 07:58 AM Edit Profile Print Topic Search Topic
"Great story... :)"

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Tony Wright
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Stillwater, OK

Built for comfort, not for speed.
Jul 29th, 2010 10:19 AM Edit Profile Print Topic Search Topic
I missed something here...

Did you go to two rehearsals with this bunch and then they put their ad back up on CL or did you go to one, they put the ad back up and then you go to a second rehearsal?

Never mind...

The linguistic expertise that you displayed in your recounting of the second ill fated rehearsal overwhelms the reader's senses with symbolism that described vividly the emotional and physical impact of the event. Can't wait to see the movie.

Rockyroller Cat

USA/NJ

Flee from me keepers of the gloom
Jul 29th, 2010 03:11 PM Edit Profile Print Topic Search Topic
The ad went back out after the first practice. I guess so many guys bail (or can't make bail lol) they need a steady stream of lead players.

Well, I've got about three weeks of learning and practicing their songs. I'm wondering if I should talk to them about volume control or just move on.

RRC

Tony Wright
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Stillwater, OK

Built for comfort, not for speed.
Jul 29th, 2010 04:02 PM Edit Profile Print Topic Search Topic
It never hurts to communicate with others...but I would do that in person, not via the Net. Typed words do not convey emotion...what might be a simple fix can turning a major event.

However...it would surprise me if they actually turn down and stay lower volume.

Funny how we change...

When I was 17-19 I was in a band with four Vox Super Beatles and we rehearsed in a room about the same size as yours...about the same as four 100 Watt half stacks...and I thought it sounded GRAND!!!

golfmann

Cuba, MO USA

Jul 29th, 2010 05:14 PM Edit Profile Print Topic Search Topic
Yea, we had three and the bass one...
PA was 2 horns from the high school track poles our bassplayer "somehow" aquired along with a trip to juveile court they tell me...

Realistic amp I think, and 4 input splitter

Never sounded better!

Really! lol

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Jul 30th, 2010 10:49 AM Edit Profile Print Topic Search Topic
Rockyroller Cat -- The all original hard rock band I was playing in recently broke up.

Your L-O-U-D practice experiences echo mine, but I played with this band for about a year. We weren't as loud when playing live because we weren't crammed in a small room, but its was still very hard to hear myself play solos.

I think I'm done with the hard rock thing. (:oD

VanGoghsEar

USA

Jul 30th, 2010 12:15 PM Edit Profile Print Topic Search Topic
If they can't get the tone they like at somewhat reduced volumes during a rehearsal, whew, just wait till a gig!

Unless you are worried about getting kicked out for rocking the boat, yeah, I'd have the talk. It's just gonna get worse. Who really needs volume intended to carry the sound across a packed club, in an empty rehearsal space when you're standing right in front of your amps?

As long as your drummer is ham handed though, you won't be able to make much headway in reducing volume.
(This message was last edited by VanGoghsEar at 12:26 PM, Jul 30th, 2010)

Rockyroller Cat

USA/NJ

Flee from me keepers of the gloom
Jul 31st, 2010 10:58 AM Edit Profile Print Topic Search Topic
When you play that loud in a small room there is no tone or music, everything just turns to mush.

I made my concerns about hearing loss known but, they didn't seem interested in making any changes so, I broke it off.

RRC

pauln
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Houston

Jul 31st, 2010 11:32 AM Edit Profile Print Topic Search Topic
You did the right thing. Those guys were not musicians... find some and you will be happy!

waxcomb

Tube City, USA

*The Starcaster Musicmaster*
Aug 19th, 2010 10:27 AM Edit Profile Print Topic Search Topic
"Who invited the know it all new guy?" They really want someone to come in there and play sonic bumper cars.

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