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kwall
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K. Wall
Jun 26th, 2010 07:46 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Hi,
My wife has Casio WK-1630. It has General Midi. She wants to run it through her computer both to hear it through the subwoofer speakers it has and to possible use some learning software. She bought a MIDI to USB cable and its suppose to be plug & play, but we get no sound output. We have tried it on both her PC and our lap top and nothing. This is the first time I have ever plugged in a MIDI cable. Can someone please help this newbie?

Thanks,

Kwall

garp
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Jun 26th, 2010 09:26 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

You won’t hear anything unless the PC or laptop is equipped with software that can generate audio from incoming MIDI data. MIDI isn’t an audio signal — it’s merely a communications protocol that tells other MIDI-compatible equipment how behave.

If the MIDI-to-USB cable is working properly, odds are that the computer is receiving MIDI data. The computer just doesn’t know what to *do* with that data.

kwall
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K. Wall
Jun 26th, 2010 11:59 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Garp,
Thanks for the reply. The MIDI-USB adapter cajme with software. Its the Emedia with the piano teaching CD. It's been loaded and when it gets to the "test keyboard" part, nothing. I asumed that the CD provided the voices for the MIDI commands, or is that not likely. Is there a cheap program we can try to see what its like?

Thanks for the help,

Kent


gmanNJ

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Jun 27th, 2010 07:46 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

if you are using a Windows based PC then go into the control panel then sounds & audio properties

on the audio tab is a MIDI music playback device drop down. Make sure there is something listed.

If you have more than one try another one. Usually your sound card will use what ever is loaded in its firmware so best to try the midi of your sound card. If you are not sure what is being used then click the about button next to it to see what the digital output device is. It should be your sound card

hope this helps
-edited for poor spelling-

(This message was last edited by gmanNJ at 07:47 AM, Jun 27th, 2010)

garp
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Jun 27th, 2010 10:48 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I’m a Mac guy, so I’ll defer to gmanNJ’s expertise on Windows.

Not to complicate things further, but MIDI has 16 different channels. Your keyboard can be set to transmit data on any of those 16 channels, but the PC has to know what channel(s) to monitor. By default, many keyboards are set to transmit on MIDI channel 1, but the Casio’s manual will show you how to change the channel if it’s necessary.

Also, not to belabor the obvious, but double-check to make sure the MIDI-USB cable is securely plugged into the Casio’s “MIDI Out” jack.

Warren Pederson

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Jun 27th, 2010 10:54 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Also, go to the volume control properties on your computer and make sure midi is not turned down or muted.

gmanNJ

Joisey

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Jun 28th, 2010 03:08 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Warren good point!
double click the vol icon to get the advance properties up and look for the midi...

you can also play a midi file on the PC to make sure midi is working thru the sound card. If this is working then like Garp said its a matter of matching channels etc...

here is apretty good web page on it

How to connect a MIDI keyboard up to a computer

kwall
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K. Wall
Jun 29th, 2010 08:15 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Hi all,
Thanks for the replies. My wife found some old software and we have it working but it will only play a note about every 7-10 seconds. Like it has to reset, or like a latency issue. It attacks right on but no matter how many times you press a key it will not sound again until 7-10 seconds later. Does that shed any light on the subject? Note that the soundcard in her computer is fairly old and very basic.

Thanks again!

Kwall

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Jun 22nd, 2017 10:06 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Read everything you can find on midi to get an overview of how it works channel wise etc. sounds like there is a latency issue. Sometimes updating any drivers for a particular computer is all that's needed. Also on every computer I've used there is a audio/midi sub program that sets the way midi is routed. There are so many differences in each setup that it's hard to speculate what the problem is. I would go online and research that first. Check for software drivers and firmware updates. Good luck.

reverendrob
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Jul 12th, 2017 12:59 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

One other thing is that while it's "just data", not all USB/Midi adapters are created equal.

Latency problems are common with cheapies, and that's exactly what you're describing happening.

For stuff that requires good latency etc or for problem units, I pull out one of the Roland ones.

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