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tquig
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playing the blues without paying dues
Jun 22nd, 2010 05:30 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

have you compared it to the 60 watt SS?--I really liked the 60 watt one I tried but at over 50 pounds it was too heay

MikeEC
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Jun 22nd, 2010 06:29 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

It must be loud as Buffalo Bob. Is shouting.

; )

jesse1d

canada

Jun 22nd, 2010 07:49 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Thanks for the review Buffalo Bob! You contributed a lot of useful information here and now I want one too. I have the DRRI but love the specs on the new super sonic.

Also, I enjoyed your videos on youtube. Looks like you love playing the blues....keep rockin'

Thanks again

Fritz_D_Cat
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Jun 22nd, 2010 09:28 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

rawk on man, and thanks for cluing us in

Buffalo Bob
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st.charles,mo

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Jun 22nd, 2010 10:24 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

thanks ...im retired now and like giving my views on things from time to time to younger folks...i play here & there but no longer to make a living..we didnt have all this internet stuff and cells phones etc..... it wasnt that long ago it didnt exsist..I remember doing the booking of my rock band from a telephone booth in hayes kansas in 1973,had to have a whole lot of change....lol..whoa there i go again,lol..

Never tried the ss 60...way too much power for me these days ...i had a vibroking when they first came out ..liked it but it was too loud...

Anyway i think this new fender amp sounds good ..my hearing is shot but younger musicians told me last week that it was awsome sounding to them..and the nuances i reviewed are from what i percieve...so there ya go..best to check it out for yourself before buying .it has it's place in the fender line and all i hope is it doesnt break down like so many products do these days..a fellow on line just told me he was a tester for fender and he had to be quiet about this amp for a year...so i figure maybe the kink's have been worked out by now...time will tell.. I wouldnt recomend trying it out if i wasnt impressed...

(This message was last edited by Buffalo Bob at 11:36 PM, Jun 22nd, 2010)

tdhall

florida

tdhall
Jun 23rd, 2010 05:23 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I really wish they would not have named this amp supersonic as, to me, it is misleading. The amp is supposed to be based on a DRRI circuit and should be compared to the DRRI. This amp is not a 22w version of the supersonic but a modified DRRI. The 60w supersonic is not a bigger version of this amp. 6L6 vs 6V6 power sections and different tone circuits changes everything. Not a criticism of the amp or anyone questioning comparisons, just a statement that these are indeed two different amps. I find the 60w supersonic to be very controllable (read that as I can get good tones at low volume) and versatile. I have owned a DRRI and the sonic qualities to that amp were not pleasing to me. I need and want the clean headroom that you get with 6L6 output and is lacking in a 6V6 amp. While I am of Buffalo Bob's generation and have been playing since 1962, I haven't fully retired yet and use the supersonic as my main gigging and recording amp (it really records well). I just don't think any comparisons can made.

Just my 2 cents.

(This message was last edited by tdhall at 06:05 AM, Jun 23rd, 2010)

Figaro

South Carolina

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Jun 23rd, 2010 10:41 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I agree tdhall. It's just like comparing the 63 Vibroverb with the 64 Vibroverb. Same name, but the circuits are way different.

tdhall

florida

tdhall
Jun 23rd, 2010 12:20 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Actually, there is even more of a difference between the two supersonic amps. It just gets me when I read so many comments that folks liked the 60watt supersonic but it was too much amp for them so they are interested in the 22watt supersonic. If you like the tone, get a 60watt supersonic and learn how to control it. This new version can not give you similar sonic qualities let alone the same in a lower output amp. My other prejudice is just how few people realize the perceived volume difference between 22 watts and 60 watts. There is simply not that much difference which is why you can play almost any gig with a 20 watt amp and if you truly know how to operate your amp the same can be said for a 60 watt amp. Okay, I'll get off my pedestal and stop preaching but I will stand by my statements. And, INMHO Fender wasn't responding to the users demand for a low powered supersonic. Based on the comments I've heard and the recorded sales in the music store where I teach, the overriding fear of the supersonic was price. I can tell you that there is a considerable drop off in sales once an amp exceeds $1000 and I suspect some of those subscribing to the philosophy that 60 watts was too much power knew they could get good service from 20 watts at a lower price. For every supersonic we've sold this year we've sold a dozen DRRI's with more than one customer stating preference for the supersonic but not wanting or able to put out that much money. Fender was likely responding to potential sales of a lower cost amp with a cascading gain channel. Since the DRRI has been in production and enjoys good sales, it was more cost effective to just do a tweak versus re-designing a true low watt supersonic. None of my prejudices imply that this is a bad amp just not comparable. I am interested in playing one of the 22watt amps as well as the revised 60 watt once we get one in stock at the store. I admit to upgrading the power tubes and changing the speaker to a Scumback in my supersonic which made the amp a bit smoother and added bottom. Neither of these changes were necessary but at the same time I'm glad I did them. I do believe that if a DRRI is voiced to your liking and you like the versatility of cascading gain, the 22 watt supersonic may be right up your alley.

Just sayin'

Buffalo Bob
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st.charles,mo

Buffalo Bob
Jun 23rd, 2010 03:27 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

WELL ,i havent tried the ss 60 ...and im sure it's a good one..but i do have a carr rambler 2 6l6 tube amp and it is great for loud clean headroom ...like a twin...But ya cant get that break up you can from a smaller power amp like this ss 22 watt .Now the ss 60 may give a little break up (i really dont know)that i like at lower volumes but i dont need all that power ,a small combo 18-22 watt pushed is what i like...and the ss 22 fits the bill.

Hell, as far as the name is concerned or is not related to ,i dont care ...it may be mis-leading to some but it is really an amp that's it's own...More close to a dr to me but why fender calls it what they do is beyond me...lol

StratQuebec
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Canada

Patient people get what they want.
Jun 23rd, 2010 04:18 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The only way to know, to me, is to compare both side by side. If I can get the tone I have in my head at a, let's say a reasonnable low volume, with one or the other, that's what matters to me. And may the best win but it the wiiner is the 60 version, I'll wait to find a used one at the cost of a new 22. And that should be not too hard to find.

The only thing is I'll have to wait how many weeks/months before the ss 22 is coming in town? Ah...Patient people get what they want you'll tell me ;-) Right! Let's wait!


Figaro

South Carolina

I kicked cancer's ass!
Jun 23rd, 2010 05:35 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Buffalo Bob, does the effects loop have volume or gain controls?

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Jun 23rd, 2010 06:29 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

A few U tubers showing up. Unfortunately this guy has a gain addiction. Looking forward to hearing some of the less distorted tones

Looky here

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Jun 23rd, 2010 06:34 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Ahhh this is better. But it would be even better if Shane could demo it for us ;-)

Mo better demo

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Jun 23rd, 2010 06:35 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

When it rains,

it pours!

tquig
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MBJ, Portland, Oreg

playing the blues without paying dues
Jun 23rd, 2010 06:36 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The power of the 60 watt SS was no problem it was the weight for me. I like the DRRI for clean so if the 22 watt hasDRRI cleans and a usable gain channel it will be a great amp.

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Jun 23rd, 2010 06:38 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

DRRI clean coming right up!

Very nice!

Quackerjack
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Jun 23rd, 2010 06:40 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

This one is my fav so far...

SHANE!

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Jun 23rd, 2010 06:43 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

More Shane!

Sweet tele tones!

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Jun 23rd, 2010 06:55 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Funky blues

Get 'em here

TweedDogSteve

Canada

Jun 23rd, 2010 07:18 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Nice !!!!

Although difficult to compare an amp tone to a video, my impression is that the Burn channel from this new 22w sounds almost identical to my 60w version from 2006 - see what you guys have been missing for the last 4 years ;-)

The clean however has lot more bass in this new 22w version. I can get that clean tone too, but my treble has to be set to 1 and bass to 6, noticed how the treble is set to 6.5 on the"Sexy Clean-toned Stratocaster" demo.

Another amp classic was born !

For other vids, simply search Fender® Super-Sonic™ 22 on youtube.

being a echo freak, I really like this one...

(This message was last edited by TweedDogSteve at 07:47 PM, Jun 23rd, 2010)

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