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FDP Forum / All Other Fender Guitars and Instruments / Mustang - reissues vs. originals

mental octopus

United States

Mar 14th, 2010 02:09 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Hey Mustang lovers,

I'm looking to pick up a Mustang. I like the Mustangs with the body contours, so I was leaning towards the 69 reissues. But then I got to thinking... why not just get the real thing? Just a few questions...

1. If I'm going vintage, I'd likely end up with a model from the 70's. What's the consensus on build quality from the era - are they generally well made? Hit or miss?
2. What's a fair price for a 70's Mustang?
3. All of the reissues I'm looking at are Japanese made. How do these stack up against the originals?

mental octopus

United States

Mar 14th, 2010 05:28 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Forgot to ask, what's a good price for a used Japanese Mustang? Are there "good" and "bad" years for the MIJ reissues or are they consistently good?

jac

M.V. Southern Cal

Apr 2nd, 2010 01:02 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Mental Octopus,
I'm no expert but I've purchased mine new in 1978. Mine has the contour you like. I have actually checked out the original 1965s and they have no contours. They are more light weight. Mine has an ash body making it heavier, As far as price, GC had MIJ issues I've seen for around $650 American currency. These days, I've seen new ones at Best Buy they asked on the tag something like $1000+ which I feel is too much. Back in the late 70s I was offered two for less than $100, they were used in good condition. I should have snagged them!

DPH
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Massachusetts, USA

May 17th, 2010 07:51 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I doubt that the original 70s Mustangs are better guitars than the Japanese RIs in general, but I'm sure there are some great 70s players out there.

If you're buying on-line you should be concerned with consistency, in which case I'd go with one of the RIs if you're looking for a guitar to play rather than as an investment.

OTOH, vintage guitar prices are in the gutter right now so it might be a decent time to buy an old American Fender.

teledeluxe

Chicago, IL

2 wrongs don't make a right/3 lefts do
Jun 2nd, 2010 08:44 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

70s guitars are hit and miss. You won't know until you actually look at it. Having said that, you can pretty easily get a 70s Mustang for under $1000 right now.

In fact, for the price people are selling used MIJ/CIJ guitars, a 70s one is only a couple hundred more.

MIJ Fenders are great guitars themselves, but the hardware and electronics are generally garbage by comparison.

(This message was last edited by teledeluxe at 08:47 AM, Jun 2nd, 2010)

jac

M.V. Southern Cal

Oct 20th, 2010 09:15 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

70s guitars are hit and miss. You won't know until you actually look at it. Having said that, you can pretty easily get a 70s Mustang for under $1000 right now.

In fact, for the price people are selling used MIJ/CIJ guitars, a 70s one is only a couple hundred more.

MIJ Fenders are great guitars themselves, but the hardware and electronics are generally garbage by comparison.

Just out of curiosity where did you come up with this info from? The hit and miss of 70s Fender is probably more applicable to the Strat than anything else. Also Japanese Fenders with garbage electronics, O.K. .....Please enlighten us further! I hate to pop anyones' bubble but there was tons of great Fender gear produced in the 70s. Sure there were lemons back then I'm sure, but that goes for any decade. Peace out!


teledeluxe

Chicago, IL

2 wrongs don't make a right/3 lefts do
Nov 1st, 2010 10:58 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

My pricing comment is based on craigslist. I just saw a sweet 70s Mustang go for $500 locally.

I've onwned six 70s era Mustangs. One of the late 70s ones I had was garbage (bad neck pocket, popping frets, etc.) More trouble than it was worth. All the others I had were great. I've also had 2 pickups that were pretty microphonic. Those 2 pickups sounded great clean and were more lively sounding in general, but would squeal under medium gain.

I've owned several MIJ and CIJ Fenders. I haven't liked ANY of their pickups. Thin sound and microphonic in a bad way. On many models they don't hum cancel when both are on either. Can't remeber if the CIJ Mustang is one of them. Same story with tremolos.

In general I find the CIJ necks and bodies to be well made, but by the time you swap pickups and hardware the 70s Mustang is definitely the way to go.

JohnEBgood

Des Moines IA USA

Jul 9th, 2011 06:14 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Their fretboards are way too narrow! They were meant as a beginner guitar.

jbryan

US

Jul 15th, 2011 09:42 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

JohnEBGood, I find the necks perfect actually. And while yes, the Mustang was introduced to be a'student' guitar', Fender didn't drop the Duo-Sonic, and a lot of players bought the Mustang since it had more features than a Duo-Sonic, yet was less money than a Tele or a Strat. I think too many people diss Mustangs as "beginner or student"...I have two and love'em both! The neck on my '82 MIA Bullet is actually a Tele neck and it's the same width as my 1972 Mustang's neck FWIW...

jbryan

US

Oct 21st, 2011 07:56 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Actually JohnEBGood, the Mustang was originally conveived to be an alternative pricewise to the Strat and Telecaster. It gets the 'student rap' because yes, the body was essentially a Duo-Sonice which was a student model. The Mustang had way more 'bling' with a similar trem system the Jaguar had- which at the time was Fender's priciest guitar! I think too many people, incorrectly, dismiss the Mustang as a student model. The switching config and trem are way more sophisticated than any student would need. Also, it probably gets that rap too because of the models available in the 22.5" neck config.

I think the original Mustangs are one of the most gorgeous guitars ever! Perfect symmetry the way the two single coils angle, the body, while strat-ish, is also more asthetically pleasing IMO. And then you have all the CHROME baby! Yeah!

Anyway, I've always been a Mustang fan. So much I also have a Jag-Stang and just got one of the new Pawnshop series Mustang Specials! This will def be a gigging guitar! It is awesome with the Enforce humbuckers that also split to single coils.

teledeluxe

Chicago, IL

2 wrongs don't make a right/3 lefts do
Oct 24th, 2011 02:04 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"Their fretboards are way too narrow! They were meant as a beginner guitar."

Not sure where you are getting this. The large majority of US-made Mustangs have the Fender B 1-5/8" nut width. Sure, some have the A width (1-1/2") but they are much rarer. I've seen a lot of early (1964-66) Daphne colored examples with it. Can't remember if the Japanese reissues had the narrow nut width or not.

jbryan

US

Dec 2nd, 2011 09:50 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

JohnEBgood- It's not any narrower than my Jaguar's neck or my '82 American Made Bullet with the Telecaster neck... IN fact the 24" Mustang used the same neck as the Jags! The Jag was certainly not a "beginner's guitar". I think you have some mis-information on the necks. Teledeluxe is correct on his measurements.

Anyways, the Mustang was ACTUALLY intended to be a mid-range model between the Strat and Duo-Sonic. Fender then decided to "upgrade" the Duo-Sonic with a similar trem system of the Jag and Jazzmaster and add the switching options unique to the 'Stang. And yes, the 22" neck can certainly be considered a "student" type guitar with tons of bling and extras!

Too much "anti-Mustang" snobbery it seems fueled by mis-information like this being passed around. So, for the sake of argument, is a Jag-Stang a Beinnger's guitar too? I mean, it is basically a Mustang with a Jaguarish shaped body with a humbucker in the bridge. The trem, neck, and switches are exactly the same as the original Mustang design!

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