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mrblues
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Jan 14th, 2010 05:43 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Right after "Heaven knows it wasn't you you set me free"..

What is he doing there? Thanks!

Peegoo
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Jan 14th, 2010 11:37 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Sounds like a simple lick in the 3rd fret blues box.

Every note is pinched; switch to bridge pickup and add some overdrive for maximum effect. Here's the locations of the notes, in order:

3rd finger, 3rd str, 5th fret, pick and bend up.

1st finger, 1st str, 3rd fret.

4th finger, 2nd str, 6th fret.

1st finger, 2nd str, 3rd fret.

3rd finger, 3rd str, 5th fret.

1st finger, 3rd str, 3rd fret, pick and bend up.

3rd finger, 4th str, 5th fret, pick twice.

You have to play this lick with some ATTITUDE!

(This message was last edited by Peegoo at 11:39 PM, Jan 14th, 2010)

pauln
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Jan 15th, 2010 12:07 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

You mention pinched harmonics, which is the "answer", so I'm going to assume you are asking about the mechanics of it...

He's rolling or "pinching" or closing his finger tips down on the pick so the pick tip is just barely extending out beyond his finger tips. This allows him to intentionally let his finger tips graze the strings as he digs in and picks hard.

This is usually done by letting the edge of the thumb pop the string as it is picked, but it also works with up strokes as well by letting the index finger pop the string. In the Eagles' case, he's either picking all down strokes and popping with the thumb, or picking up and down and using both thumb and finger to pop the strings. I suspect he's all down strokes here, but it is possible to close down and play alternating picking and throw a harmonic off each note as fast as you can play...

Anyway, doing this will result in harmonics if the gain is up and the location of picking on the string is either one half, one third, one quarter, one fifth, etc... between the fretted note and the bridge.

The half distance harmonic is an octave up.
The third distance is up an octave and a fifth.
The fourth distance is up two octaves.
The fifth distance is up two octaves and a major third (almost).

The series continues and gets a little dissonant as you keep going, but bending the strings can pull even those into usable sounds... which is the case with the Eagles tune.

He's playing about three or four notes of the lick as he's coming down the pent scale with the finger tips closed down on the pick so each of the notes is throwing a harmonic - each note is throwing a different harmonic in the harmonic series - meaning that very little relocation of the picking position is causing some of those notes to be a half, third, or quarter distance harmonic.

Recall ZZ Top's "La Grange" solo where he's playing and bending the same note over and over but changing the picking position on the string (and closing down on the pick to generate the harmonics) - he's basically calling out all the harmonics in the series within the range of his guitar...

You can usually judge the right position visually, and if the gain is high enough you don't have to be dead on to get one of them. Like the ZZ Top solo, if you search around with the pick you will find you are always only a fraction of an inch from some of the ones higher up in the series.

(This message was last edited by pauln at 12:09 AM, Jan 15th, 2010)

mrblues
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Jan 18th, 2010 10:50 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Thanks guys!

No Limits

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Jan 31st, 2010 07:58 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Peego's got the structure right, but the position is actually two frets up from there. If you play it just as he wrote, but move your frets up two, it'll sound just like the recorded version.

This song is a slightly wierd one where, even though the chords are in the Key of "G" (G, D, C) the intro, solo and most of the licks are played in an "A" penatonic form (I'm sure it's some strange variation of a "G...something" scale, but I play the standard "A" Position and it sounds right on with the original.

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Jan 31st, 2010 11:01 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Oops, I was tuned to D. I was playing the Type O Negative version of Already Gone.

=o)

Where are you guys playing next?

No Limits

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Feb 1st, 2010 04:43 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I'm on travel for my job for a couple weeks. Next gig is at Martini's in Waldorf 20 Feb. You?

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Feb 1st, 2010 08:16 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Aggh! The Manassas jam is Feb 20th! Rats!

gdw3
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Feb 2nd, 2010 02:42 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"I'm sure it's some strange variation of a "G...something" scale"

I haven't worked it out myself, but it's probably A Dorian, which would be the second mode of the G major scale.

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Feb 5th, 2015 12:25 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Dang, Peegoo!

I was searching the google for this today and it brought me back here.

Thanks!

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Feb 5th, 2015 04:40 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Cheers, TheProfessor!

Tyrone Shuz

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Feb 8th, 2015 12:23 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

It is where Peegoo says it is.

Don't really do a bend-up like he says, just a vibrato, aggressive, if you pull it sharp OK, but it's really a m3 there.

THe last notes are
5th fret D string
5th fret A string
3rd fret D
5th fret D

Peegoo
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Feb 8th, 2015 08:33 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

This thread is five years old.

You really DO live forever on the innernetz!

mrblues
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record of her favorite blues.
Mar 16th, 2015 08:51 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

\m/ :^)

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