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Lago

"Kilroy was here! "
Jan 11th, 2010 07:29 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"I posted a thread on it several months ago when I first did it but I can give you more details and a couple of pics if interested..."

Please do!

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Strat 48

US/Central Ga

Jan 12th, 2010 08:53 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I am very definetly a happy member of the PRRI Club. I've had one for 12 months and I am extremely satisfied with mine. I have a Vibrolux Reverb and I think the PRRI outshines what many consider to be one of the best Fender ever made. As far as 15 watts goes, for playing at home it is no problem to get great tone at bedroom levels. If my PRRI were lost or stolen, I would replace it even at the $1K price. No problems with rattles or any other malfunctions. Mine is completely stock and has traveled about 4K miles and never missed a beat. I would guess by now that I have about 300-350 operating hours on it. I run the volume normally at low levels (3-4) as I play at home and with friends - no bar gigs or stage appearances. In short, I had some high expectations for this amp and it has exceeded my expections. The size and weight make this amp very portable and the tone is all I could have hoped for. If you like clean Fender tone and want a good small amp, this may well be all you could ask for. Everytime I play this amp, I am surprised at how much I enjoy that great Fender tone.

PWGuy

USA

Jan 14th, 2010 08:23 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Yay, I love mine! I bought it at BEST BUY (haha) for $650 with tax out the door and 18 months no interest financing! I couldn't pass it up :). Although, it was one of two floor models at the time, it was in perfect condition!

It's so dang simple to use - I like the fact I don't have to tweak much to get a good sound. I primarily use a Gretsch Electromatic to my pedalboard to the amp. LOVE IT! I get so many compliments on the tone!

I just bought some 6v6 Tung Sol RI power tubes and some NOS RCA 12ax7 pre-amp tubes as well. Once I get the new tubes, I will bias the amp. Then I'll get a NOS 12at7 and possibly a NOS rectifier tube.

Also, I've considered upgrading to the Allen transformer (low profile, etc) but since I rarely have the volume above 3 and mic the amp, I'm not sure I'll hear much of a difference!

Anyone care to weigh in?

(This message was last edited by PWGuy at 08:26 AM, Jan 14th, 2010)

labeau

Keweenaw, MI

Takin' the chill off the wheel...
Jan 14th, 2010 09:34 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Also, can anyone chime in on gigging the PRRI w/band?

Liquid Smoke

USA

Jan 14th, 2010 10:20 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Gigging would depend on your band, your drummer, venue, PA support, etc.

I have found that in my band situation (loud instro surf with two guitars, bass, and drums) it's just not enough amp. Once you start turning up past 4 or 5 on the volume you'll lose the clean sparkle (that I like).

Of course, if you mic it you could play Cobo Hall :)

mateoricci
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Los Angeles, CA

Jan 14th, 2010 06:02 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Count me in, pre-ordered mine in May of 08, received it in June and guess I was one of the lucky ones with no rattle. Have put it through its paces ever since and love it more and more as the speaker has broken in. Haven't done any mods and don't plan on it at this point. Even the stock GT tubes which were horrible in my TRRI sound pretty darn good to my ears.

Dadical hit the nail on the head with the dimed PRRI and volume/tone rolled back slightly. I love my teles and strats through it this way. Roll back the volume to about 7 for rhythm work and then let her rip for leads. Straight in you get that juicy, natural, slightly compressed overdriven tone from heaven. You can really dig in to the notes or soften the attack for a wonderful range of dynamics.

I really enjoy my LP Standard through it too, but forget about any clean headroom with that setup.

(This message was last edited by mateoricci at 06:04 PM, Jan 14th, 2010)

mgmgmg

USA

Jan 16th, 2010 01:34 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I purchased my Princeton in July. It had rattles from the baffle and both boards on the back. I fixed using 1/8 inch aluminum bracing ala BillM. I used L shaped so I would not have to bother with routing.

My amp's reverb tank came with one of the springs broken off which I still have not fixed. I probably need a new tank as it appears to be broken off on the capacitor or whatever. The reverb still sounds good but im sure it can be much better.

How much noise does your PRRIs make when your amp is cranked to 10. Mine makes more than I would like it too, however im not sure if this is not just a characteristic of tube amps in general as im a newbie. Most of the noise comes from the treble knob/circuit if that makes sense. The noise sounds like TV static.



bluesking55
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Mechanicsville Va

Jan 16th, 2010 05:08 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

got 1 for awile and love it, Got 1 of BillM's trannys sitting here, not installed yet.
Got a THD 10" everyone was talking about but Im gonna stick with the stock speaker, Mine is still sealed in the box
Mine dont rattle too much if at all

vker

USA/Boulder CO

Jan 16th, 2010 08:43 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I got my PRRI last Summer, during the initial price reductions. That day there was a DRRI and PRRI for about the same price- w/in 40 bucks or so. Truth is I wanted to like the larger DRRI, but had ABed them before that day, and again opted for the smaller PRRI-
even though it meant prob not gigging with it.. The flavor and characteristics of the PRRI had won me over, and in many ways is exactly the sound that I have quested for throughout.
Just retubed power tubes for first time- I used ElectroHarmonix 6V6's- with was the label beneath the Fender and GT label of the original tubes.

(This message was last edited by vker at 08:44 AM, Jan 16th, 2010)

Dadical
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Jan 16th, 2010 04:34 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Now that I have the upgraded OT I'm playing with adding extension cabs. I'm not sure I can even describe the sound I'm getting with the PRRI stacked on a 4X10 bass cab.

First, it IS louder - much louder. That was the first big shock. There is zero loss of articulation, a huge increase in dimension, and the bottom is HUGE and CLEAN. The TO20 delivers such clean bass that I can do bass lines on a guitar that have the power and undertones to actually sound like a bass.

With normal clean settings it is such a three dimensional expression with full range articulation that you'd probably have to hear it to believe #1, that the PRRI had that much tonal range, clarity, and power - and #2, adding an extension could really add that much pure volume.

Before adding the cab I sat on the couch and played the same passages over and over to be sure I had a full and accurate image in my head of what I was hearing. Then I added the cab and sat down to play. At the first note I literally did a double take to look at the amp. The difference is that huge.

This is all at clean levels. Personally I don't recommend running distorted signals into bass speakers. I'll try the OD sounds with guitar cabs.

Figaro

South Carolina

I kicked cancer's ass!!!
Jan 16th, 2010 04:56 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I just got a used PRRI for $600 and love it. Mine doesn't rattle at all. This amp has a big, full tone. I don't remember the vintage ones I used to have sounding this good! I usually replace stock speakers but I'm not sure if another speaker could sound any better in this amp. I can't believe how good the Jensen C10R speaker sounds. The PRRI also sounds great overdriven when you turn it up to 7-10. But you must turn the bass down when you turn up the volume to keep it from farting out. But that is true for most amps.


I like the PRRI better than the DRRI I used to have because I usually only play at home. They sound very simular but the PRRI is just not as loud.

I came close to buying an Egnater Rebel 20 amp. With the Rebel, I was able to compare the 6V6 sound to the EL84 sound and I much prefer the fuller 6V6 sound. I probably would have never used it's EL84 setting. The Egnater Rebel 20 is definetly more versatile but the clean sound of the PPRI is better and the reverb is heavenly. If I need it to overdrive at lower volumes, I'll just use a pedal.

newstratter
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USA

Jan 16th, 2010 05:48 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Hey Dadical,

What brand 4x10 bass cab?

Bill

Dadical
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idiot - I have several pieces missing!
Jan 16th, 2010 05:52 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

It's a Hot Cab from a local outfit here in SoCal that wound up going out of business.
:(

Their stuff is really, really good. Even their speaker baskets are custom made with wide, flat flanges for tight, resonance free mounting.

Figaro

South Carolina

I kicked cancer's ass!
Jan 16th, 2010 08:52 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

My 2008 PRRI has 2 extra wood mounts at the inside bottom of the speaker baffle board that the vintage PR did not have. Check and see if your PRRI has these extra baffle board mounts. I'm wondering if these are also on the earlier production PRRIs or if they added them recently to solve the rattle problems.

Te 52

'52 Tele + Delirium

= Tellurium 52
Jan 16th, 2010 09:53 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Every PRRI I've inspected has the two mounting cleats supporting the lower edge of the baffle. The rattle problem seems to emanate from the upper edge of the baffle, which is unsupported. There's no structure in the cabinet to support it, since the baffle runs right up to the underside of the chassis.

Figaro

South Carolina

I kicked cancer's ass!
Jan 17th, 2010 11:09 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I just tried a reissue Jensen P10Q in the PRRI and I prefer the C10R. They actually sound very close but the C10R has more low end and the P10Q sounds just a little crunchier. This is probably due to the alnico vs the ceramic magnet and the smooth cone vs the ribbed cone. This C10R speaker is amazing and I wish I had tried one a long time ago. I might get 3 of them to put in my tweed Bandmaster clone.

telezebub

Ontario, Canada

my jacket is lacquered tweed
Jan 18th, 2010 12:04 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

hey Figaro,

you are sent by God my friend. i'm in a quandary right now and the PRRI i bought used came with a P10q which i don't like. i heard it sweetens over time. the good news is that i put the p10q in my pro junior for now.

can you tell me how the speakers compare? i could really use some advice. also was your p10q new or used? thanks

Figaro

South Carolina

I kicked cancer's ass!
Jan 18th, 2010 03:59 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

My P10Q is a used one. I took it out of my tweed Bandmaster to try it in the PRRI. The 2 speakers sound very close to each other. The C10R has a little more bass and treble and the P10Q breaks up just a little more (crunchier). I think this is mostly due to the difference in the cones. The P10Q has a smooth cone and the C10R has a ribbed cone. I think the P10Q is better for a tweed type amp and the C10R is better for a blackface type amp.

Dadical
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Jan 22nd, 2010 01:46 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Took it to an unexpectedly LOUD situation tonight. There were 2 guitars, bass, drums, harp, and three vocals. I was up against a Princeton II with a Boss multi-fx that had lots of boost. I was JV Strat with lowered pups, cord, PRRI. The tone was amazing, but the power was a bit low.

My amp was between the bass and drums so we could all hear each other and keep a solid rhythm section. On solos the rest of the band backed out a bit so there was enough to cut through, but any rhythm pushes or syncopation were really too low for the house. I was asked to turn up a few times.

PWGuy

USA

Jan 27th, 2010 01:49 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I am biasing my PRRI tonight. Will share my "tube change journey" (power/pre-amp/reverb) tomorrow prob.

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