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Timinator

USA

Feb 18th, 2010 06:31 PM   Edit   Profile  

Uh, dude, it wasn't a for sale post. Like, ya know...

Skippy
Contributing Member

Canada

Mar 27th, 2015 02:46 PM   Edit   Profile  


Personally I think the time has past for these great amps, I could never invest in something that it virtually imposible to turn around and at this point is declining in value and dependability.
Kemper and clones are now a better all around value. Victoria has satified my tweed needs and there are some bonafide blackface buiders out there that I can depend on if needed .IMHO Matchless has replaced Fender in the used most wanted and hard to aquire category.
I wish Clark would go back to building Vibroluxes though, I hear he was one of the best.


Hammond101
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So. Cal. USA

Mar 27th, 2015 03:05 PM   Edit   Profile  

Not to argue but I disagree. Nothing looses more value than a clone. How would I know? I built no less that 12 DR and VLR amps in 2014. With real deal vintage gear there are market adjustments for sure but over the long haul, unless you paid real stupid money for a vintage Fender you will certainly get your investment back. I always have or better.

Declining in dependability? Nope. Properly serviced these amps are as dependable as when new, maybe more so. I see far more TR, DR & PR reissues across my bench than vintage gear. Do them right the first time and you won't see them again for years.

willie
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Near Atlanta GA

Amp Tech Emeritus
Mar 27th, 2015 04:25 PM   Edit   Profile  

I have to totally concur with Hammond101...and for the same reasons. ;-)

w

Skippy
Contributing Member

Canada

Mar 27th, 2015 07:10 PM   Edit   Profile  

Yes I realize clones lose value off the bat but the parts are new.
Properly serviced is the key word here and service costs money.
I was looking at a mid 60's Vibrolux, once I factor in the original cost plus cap maintenace, replacement speakers,brittle wire, reverb tank wire, etc, how much is this going to cost?
Silverface Twins and Supers are the exception to the rule as they can be aquired for decent dollars. I would love to have a tip top perfect BF Vibrolux but I have to draw the line somewhere." I ain't no millionairs son"

John Peden

U S A, NYC

John Peden
Mar 27th, 2015 07:10 PM   Edit   Profile  

Tweed Vibrolux, the perfect bedroom amp.

Hammond101
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So. Cal. USA

Mar 27th, 2015 09:30 PM   Edit   Profile  

So the problem isn't the vintage amps it's the price of admission? I Can't say it's a fault of the amps they have become valuable. Keep a vintage Fender for 10 -15 years and you will make money on it, at least on paper if you keep it.

That clone will need caps in 10-15 years or sooner. All consume tubes & speakers. Good tube amps are not cheap to aquire(clone or otherwise). Some a cheap to maintain but it is required by all of them.

All this make the Fender silverface amps real bargains today.

BbendFender
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Country city guy

I like to bend a B.
Mar 28th, 2015 09:56 AM   Edit   Profile  

I have owned a '65 and a '68 Vibrolux amp and both were great amps. They are hard to find these days.

(This message was last edited by BbendFender at 08:22 AM, Apr 23rd, 2015)

Skippy
Contributing Member

Canada

Mar 28th, 2015 11:41 PM   Edit   Profile  

Hard to find, no. Hard to find localy and try , yes.
I have been monitoring Ebay, Reverb,Gbase, and the local adds, prices are steep but nothing is moving. If i was to purchase sight unseen ( or unheard) and it's not to my liking I would have a hard time selling. Conversley. a Clark Vibrolux clone went up on my local craigslist and was sold in the hour for top dollar. I can't even find one anywhere. So yes, price of admission does weigh on my personal decisions when resale is a concern. I agree that a stock model will appreciate as a collector piece, but even collector stock needs a buyers market.
I am waiting patiently until one comes available locally that meets my needs and most importantly I can audition, until then a clone will have to do.

Roger Ball
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Canada

More Mel Bay, less eBay!
Mar 29th, 2015 12:56 PM   Edit   Profile  

I don't think there was ever a bad year for the Vibrolux Reverb. They are great amps!

I bought my 1970 model about eleven years ago and it wasn't in great shape. The faceplate was almost unreadable, the baffle was warped and crumbling, and the amp itself was crackly and shrill. It had obviously had a lot of use and abuse over the years.

I took care of the cosmetic and structural stuff and went through the innards, updating the power cord and filter caps. I also re-wired it to the blackface bias and phase inverter circuits which didn't require much change at all.

This has been my gigging amp ever since and hasn't given me any problems at all. I've had a few offers to buy it but it's not going anywhere.

(This message was last edited by Roger Ball at 02:59 PM, Mar 29th, 2015)

Skippy
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Canada

Apr 18th, 2015 11:16 PM   Edit   Profile  

Found it! Bought it!
A 71 SF at a very reasonable price and very clean.


BbendFender
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Country city guy

I like to bend a B.
Apr 23rd, 2015 06:23 AM   Edit   Profile  

When I was back home over the weekend a friend gave me two 1970 10" Oxfords that came from a Vibrolux Reverb. One needs a recone.

urby
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Seattle, Wa

Apr 23rd, 2015 10:55 AM   Edit   Profile  

"Personally I think the time has past for these great amps, I could never invest in something that it virtually imposible to turn around and at this point is declining in value and dependability."

"Found it! Bought it!
A 71 SF at a very reasonable price and very clean."

Solid reasoning. 8v)


lonesomebill

USA/Southwest

Don't watch my foot!
May 13th, 2015 05:54 PM   Edit   Profile  

I just bought a 65 VR with FEIC markings for under 2K. Still waiting for it to show up. I always loved these amps but haven't owned one for a few years.

hideawayblues

USA / WNY

Jun 6th, 2015 07:01 PM   Edit   Profile  

Did the 65 finally arrive, lonesomebill? How do you like it?


lonesomebill

USA/Southwest

Don't watch my foot!
Jun 8th, 2015 08:43 AM   Edit   Profile  

hideawayblues: Love the amp. Decided that the speakers had to go though. Some folks try to pass Jensen C10Qs off as OEM, but it was the larger magnet C10N that went into VRs. Anyway, they were predictably harsh in this amp so I put in a couple Weber signatures. Big improvement. The amp is kind of hissy, so I bought some new tubes, but haven't put them in yet -- maybe today.
These VRs have got to be my favorite amp in the world. I play mostly 335 style guitars with humbuckers and the 2 10" speakers are just right for tones that are woody and clear. The amp is also not too heavy for this 60-year-old to lug around and lift.

tjnies

PA USA

Go Penguins!
Jun 17th, 2015 10:52 AM   Edit   Profile  

"Tweed Vibrolux, the perfect bedroom amp."

Really? I owned a 1960 tweed model, and loved it. But you had to get pretty far up the volume knob to get any sort of grind.

Sadly, I sold it, since I had paid pretty dearly for it, and worried that blowing one of the transformers would kill resale value.

Luckily, the buyer paid my purchase price so I reluctantly let it go.

slider313

NC

Jun 17th, 2015 04:14 PM   Edit   Profile  

The '64 non reverb Vibrolux is a great amp also.

(This message was last edited by slider313 at 06:16 PM, Jun 17th, 2015)

socal
Contributing Member

California

Sep 5th, 2018 05:10 AM   Edit   Profile  

Just wanted to add some input on VRs. Got a '66 VR very clean with original C10Ns/original cones. Paid $2200 eBay buy-it-now + $150 for shipping (was worth the shipping cost as the seller did a great job packing, double-boxed with that popcorn & he even found a reissue VR box). Can't remember the shipping company coming international thru customs, but arrived safely (whew!). Was also on auction starting bid at $2000. Bought in 2015. Seller was the custom guitar painter on Vancouver Island, Canada if anyone knows about him. Seller bought it from the original owner that he knew who was also from Vancouver Island. Also, came with the original footswitch. Seller also had a flightcase which wasn't included, but may have been responsible for the amps very good condition.

I had seen a '67 VR with C10Ns at Imperial Guitars in Sherman Oaks, CA for $2750 & thought that was a fair price around the same time period.

I have seen a BFVR (CBS) sell on auction for $1850 + shipping on eBay around 2016. In very good condition with C10Ns. About 20 bidders. Low starting bid. Good opportunities like that are pretty rare and Reverb BFVR listings always seem priced high to start.

I really enjoy the vintage C10Ns. They just sound so exquisite & gorgeous & just sound right to my ears. I do think they are the best sounding speakers for BFVRs & BFPRs. As well as they were what was in them from Fullerton during that Jensen supply period (which seems like late '65 thru '66 and I think in some '67s for the Fender-branded brown & gold labels). So costly though at $250-$350 a piece (have seen a $400 sale price or two!).

(This message was last edited by socal at 07:35 AM, Sep 5th, 2018)

pokeraz

Phoenix, AZ

Sep 6th, 2018 03:37 PM   Edit   Profile  

Add me to the blackface Vibrolux Reverb club, if there is one.

I bought a '67 a month ago. I've had an itch to own a blackface Vibrolux for a while. Found one in original condition minus the typical filter caps, power tubes and power cord. Every component dates to mid '66 with a '67 date on the tube chart. Original Oxford 10L5s. Mullard 5AR. RCA preamp tubes etc.

I found it online with what looked like an exageratted description. That it was one of the special ones and they had a dumb price. I called them and they assured me it was special. So I made an offer I thought for sure they would reject but they didn't.

Well, it is everything they said it was. It has a presence that I can't describe. Truly wonderful. I thought I would never find anything that I liked better than my tweed twin but here we are. Of course it is a completely different animal than the twin so they can coexist :)

So good, I have a pair of gorgeous set of true NOS RCA 6L6 Blackplates I can't bring myself to install because I am afraid of messing with the magic.

I am glad we found each other.

(This message was last edited by pokeraz at 05:41 PM, Sep 6th, 2018)

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