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EdMan57

San Diego,CA/USA

So many toys,so little time.
Jun 22nd, 2011 05:08 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I saw that a guy on Harmony Central users reviews had a fresh plywood baffle cut for a pair of Eminence 10" speakers,and he sounded quite pleased with the results.I know it probably messes with the factory warranty,but it still sounds like a cool option.Anyways,I have a pair of 16 ohm NOS Celestion V10-60's in my closet that I would love to try in my Deluxe VM.Anyone here do the 2-10 mod?

Ed

EdMan57

San Diego,CA/USA

So many toys,so little time.
Jul 18th, 2011 05:46 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Just a bump to keep it on the front page.Btw,I'm still totally digging my Deluxe VM.And to think that I had put off the purchase for the last year or so because I feared that it would be another one of my quick purchase/quick flip type of things.


Ed

MacReverb II
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Watervliet, NY

Jul 19th, 2011 11:05 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Just sold my Deluxe VM. Although I really loved the overdrive channel, the clean channel just didn't do it for me. If only it had a mid-control knob. I kept going back and forth between my 73' Deluxe Reverb and the Deluxe VM and the 73 DR just blew it away. I have a SS Fender Deluxe 90 DSP and the clean channel on that amp is far superior to the Deluxe Vm too. Maybe I had a bad one, I don't know.

EdMan57

San Diego,CA/USA

So many toys,so little time.
Jul 20th, 2011 06:14 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

^^^^^ It's probably the solid-state preamp section giving the Deluxe VM a harder tone and feel than your all-tube '73 Deluxe Reverb.I personally don't mind such on my Deluxe VM,as I have other tube amps that give up that softer,and often sweeter,tone and feel.Yeah,the overdrive mode of the Deluxe VM does have a cool singing quality that makes it lots of fun to play through.


Ed

EdMan57

San Diego,CA/USA

So many toys,so little time.
Sep 16th, 2011 11:15 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Anyone have any luck with putting other speakers in their Deluxe VM?I am thinking of slipping a Celestion V12-60 into mine,though the 2-10 idea still has me intrigued.Btw,the V12-60 has a mounting depth of 124 mm,making it a touch more crowded than the stock G12P-80 at 119 mm.

Ed

Frankie A.

Jersey Shore

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Jan 14th, 2012 09:02 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Hi all, haven't been around here for a while so I thought I'd give this thread a bump to put it back on the front page . . I bought my Bandmaster VM head in July 2010 on my way to a gig at the Tuckerton Seaport. Played it through a cheap Kustom 412 cabinet. Sounded OK, but not totally pleased with it. Went back to the music store the next day and bought the matching 212 cab. WOW, what a difference. Great tone with my Strats and Les Paul with P90's.
Been using it at every gig since in the past year and a half. Very pleased with it, except for the hiss on the distortion channel.
Has anyone figured out a pre-amp tube swap to eliminate this?
I know in previous threads there was some experimentation here but nothing definite . . .

EdMan57

San Diego,CA/USA

So many toys,so little time.
Mar 24th, 2012 02:31 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Frankie A.,I wonder if a Sovtek LPS 12AX7A in V1 would help?I believe that the internal spiral filament design makes for a quieter tube,though I'm not sure if such would eliminate any preamp gain noise.


Ed

(This message was last edited by EdMan57 at 02:32 AM, Mar 24th, 2012)

matto311

United States

From The Cradle to the grave.
Mar 11th, 2013 11:13 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Anybody try any circuit board mods, or any new tube recommendations? I'm wondering how much a re-bias would effect my Bandmaster vm..have had it for a while and looking to burn $$!! Come on VM club, rise again!!

cybertech
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Oregon, USA

May 31st, 2013 10:43 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I just ordered my Deluxe VM from zzounds after test driving quite a few tube amps. Looking forward to playing my amp on June 5th!!! I plan on adding nickel plated corners, I am surprised that it was not included in the stock amp

reverend mikey
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west Omaha, east NE

What's your "good guy" price on that?
May 31st, 2013 11:41 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Does Fender still make this amp? I did a search on MF and it wasn't listed there. What does this amp sell for today? Any changes in the design or speaker since it was introduced over 4 years ago?



reverend mikey
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west Omaha, east NE

What's your "good guy" price on that?
Jun 1st, 2013 01:44 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Looks like it can be special ordered at Sweetwater. I assume that means others can also order it.

I'm wondering if the honeymoon has warn off for some folks who initially raved about this amp?

cybertech
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Oregon, USA

Jun 1st, 2013 09:15 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I bought mine from ZZounds for $720 and I begged for a 10% discount. I was counting on a price match of 15% off but MF and GC does not carry it anymore. A few GC stores had them laying around but ZZounds could not verify for the pricematch. I sold my MIM P bass and Bassman 250-210 for $700 to keep my wife happy. I am really excited to get this. I actually was able to play one before I bought it and instantly was hooked!

cybertech
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Oregon, USA

Jun 6th, 2013 02:00 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

My new Deluxe VM has landed in the PDX area. I should have it tomorrow. Really looking forward to playing and getting it dialed in for Sunday worship!


Did I mention that I was really excited to get this? GAS is so much fun!!!

(This message was last edited by cybertech at 04:03 AM, Jun 6th, 2013)

bassngtr
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Methuen, MA, USA

May 4th, 2015 01:38 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Just bought a used Deluxe VM combo for my son at Manchester (NH) Music Mill for $450. So far it sounds great using his MIM Tele, my MIM Strat '70s Classic Series, and my Gibson SG. LOTS of bass response from sitting on the hardwood floors. Both channels sound awesome - need to figure a way to try it at gig volume without hurting the pets!! :) We have 30 days to decide on it, but so far it seems like a no-brainer!!

swampyankee
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olde New England

If you can't play good, play loud
Aug 25th, 2015 11:27 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Count me in as a Johnny-come-lately member of Club VM!
I just bought a used Bandmaster VM head from a guy on Reverb. I really wanted the whole kit, so I found a matching 2x12 cabinet at a GC I've yet to pick up. I'm looking forward to that 40w closed back punchy Fender tone!

As far as it sounding anything like a "vintage" Bandmaster or not, I really can't say, having sold mine 40 years ago. All I have to compare it to is a '90's solid state Deluxe 112, Super Champ XD with 12" speaker, and modded Custom Vibrolux Reverb which I’d consider the most vintage sounding amp I have.
I plugged the BMVM head into the 12" speaker in my SCXD until I pick up the 2x12 cabinet. Even though the clean channel is supposedly partially solid state, I'd say the clean tone is much more warm and organic sounding than my ss D112. Comparing it to a 90's ss student amp might not be saying much, but under the right conditions, my little D112 could replicate a decent Deluxe tone, alongside my old DRRI. It's definitely different sounding than my CVR (which is supposedly a brownface tone), and it has the blackface sparkle. It has a similar bright tone as the SCXD through the same speaker, but even at lower volumes, it’s more punchy and meaty, which might just be the extra 25 watts coming through. I think the 2x12 closed back cabinet will both tone down the brightness, and add to the "bigger" sound as opposed to a small 1x12 open back combo cab.
I haven’t been able to really push the amp past 2 or 3 and at those levels the overdrive channel tends to be a tad fizzy – typical of a lot of Fender OD channels I've heard. Although with the gain at 2 or 3, I can get a nice bluesy dirt thing going. I'm eager to see how it sounds at practice and stage volumes this week at rehearsal. It would be nice if it could conjure up a tweed growl and maybe some slightly higher gain without getting too peaky.

Being a guitar-to-amp kind of guy, I’m not much of an effects connoisseur but I’ll need them for some of the covers we do. I’m hoping the onboard effects will be adequate. The digital reverb is not as good as the spring 'verb in my D112 and CVR, but I don't dial in too much in the band anyway unless I'm playing early Stones or surf. The delay sounds nice, and the chorus seems serviceable, and both are easy to dial in. What I like about the onboard effects is that they don’t complicate and muddy up the signal chain from guitar to amp - “true bypass” I guess you’d say. Plus it’s a hellovalot easier to setup and maintain than a whole ensemble of pedals.

It has been said that the BMVM is a Bandmaster in name only, but IMHO it's as much a Bandmaster as any of the variations of the Princeton, Deluxe, Twin, etc. that Fender has put out over the years. If I was searching for a purist vintage tone, I’d have bought a vintage Bandmaster or just stuck with my CVR. I was looking for a 2 channel amp a la Blues or Hot Rod Deluxe, but with blackface voice and cosmetics, and in a head and cab arrangement. I’m thinking the BMVM fits that bill for me!

(This message was last edited by swampyankee at 04:00 PM, Aug 31st, 2015)

swampyankee
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olde New England

If you can't play good, play loud
Nov 17th, 2015 08:17 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I guess I'm the sole member of this club these days. But I'm still singing the praises of the BMVM.
I'm using the whole setup in our band doing 60's rock, and it works great with my Tele. Nice, punchy, tight cleans. Takes my bad monkey od pedal well. We were jamming on some blues tonight and it really sang, even without od.

(This message was last edited by swampyankee at 10:18 PM, Nov 17th, 2015)

geomlong

USA

geolong
Nov 18th, 2015 03:40 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I recently acquired a G-DEC amp. My friend has one and it has a green label on the front top that lists all of the selections of amps, drums, and other selections. The Amp I got does not have that label and it would be very convenient to have one. Called Fender and they said it was a item that came with the amp and they do not have one in stock.

I would appreciate any help or advice

Thanks George

Tom Alexander

Akron, OH USA

Nov 25th, 2015 05:56 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

George- I do have the top card that has all of the preset info from my G-Dec and have scanned it in. I would be happy to email or fax it to you if you give me your email address. Mine is the original G-Dec. The G-Dec 2 or 30 may have different presets.

Tom

adkteleman

USA

Sep 12th, 2017 06:38 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I love my Deluxe VM. I've kept mine stock. The speaker is nicely broken in and it sounds so seeet! I've had it for 5 years. It's one of my main giggers!

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