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Bad Cat

BC Canada

Stay Tuned
Dec 1st, 2010 03:55 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Just did a very loud gig using the VM Deluxe. Best brawl I've been in for a while! The clean channel set at 8, the dirt channel gain at 5 volume 7. Big, thick, howling solo tones and plenty of clean room for dynamic chording. It was all there!

Bamboozler

Holland

Jan 6th, 2011 02:40 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Bad Cat: Do you still have the EH brand 12ax7 in the VM Deluxe?

I recently bought a VM Deluxe secondhand in a shop, so far I like what I'm hearing very much but I haven't taken it to practice yet so I only used it at home, at very low volumes...

Has anyone here got any recommendations for the preamp and/or powertubes should I decide to change them?

hollowbodyman

USA

Open G Wiz
Jan 6th, 2011 07:24 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Hi Don Vito and otherfolks, new to the thread.

Got a DVM and will change the tubes to TAD6L6 WGC-STRs and some JJ ECCC803-S longplate AX7s.

Don, you mentioned re-biasing after power tube change. I thought this was a fixed bias amp. How do I change bias.....and 2.) is it necessary for any power tube change to the DVM or was this simply your preference, ISO a more optimal tone?

Thanks for your help all.

Great amp, but a little thin on the gain channel. Gonna try a Jensen C12Q this weekend. I know it's only 35 watts, but it's one of the few speakers that will fit and I do like the Jensen sound---even the "notorious" Italian re-issues.


Bad Cat

BC Canada

Stay Tuned
Feb 13th, 2011 06:14 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Bamboozier: I went back to the stock GT preamp tube and it's OK. I haven't done any recent tube experiments but I remember Don Vito's postings. He fitted some black plates (lucky dog)and was very happy (if memory serves). I think it was earlier in the thread. Nice amp though - very versatile.

jimmi

California

Apr 30th, 2011 02:52 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I picked up a used Deluxe VM a few weeks ago. After a few weeks It seems like the Gain channel is VERY hissy. I don't know if it got like this over the last few weeks or if it way always there and I'm just noticing it. I play a Strat and don't like to add much distortion to the gain channel because it fights with the Strat tone. So I tend to set the gain knob to 2 and the volume knob up loud. So it's the power amp section that's making all the hiss. Any solutions? Might it be a tube? Which one and why? Thanks.

jimmi

California

Apr 30th, 2011 03:42 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I really like the clean channel in the Deluxe VM and use that most of the time. It's the gain/drive channel that is hissy. It's notice it when I'm recording it. If I turn up the gain knob and turn down the volume knob it's not that noticable but that's not the tone I like. Of course I can just use the clean channel and put my compressor and Tube Screamer in front of it. But if it's just a tube in the drive channel that's causing the hiss, well that would be an easy fix and I'd be happy enough with the amp. I DO like the effects.

jimmi

California

Apr 30th, 2011 03:44 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

(This message was last edited by jimmi at 03:45 AM, Apr 30th, 2011)

MacReverb II
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Watervliet, NY

Apr 30th, 2011 07:13 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Just wanted to say, I got my Deluxe Vm used for $500 and I have yet to have even the slightest problem with it. The clean channel is dead silent and there's nothing hissy about the drive channel. I love the effects. I no longer carry a delay pedal, chorus pedal or rotary pedal on my pedal board. I love having the room to add other flavors, plus I think the onboard overdrive sounds great too. My only wish is that it had a built in tuner. If it had a tuner I think I could get away with no pedal board at all. Maybe in version II.

jimmi

California

Apr 30th, 2011 01:31 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Thanks Mac,
I love the amp too but I do have a hissy drive channel with the Volume knob turned up. I've heard others also say that their VM is totally quiet so I'm assuming something has gone wrong with mine and am trying to trace the problem. If anyone has any idea as to what it could be or how I could remedy it (change whatever tube, etc.), I'd really appreciate the feedback.
Thanks again,
Jimmi

jimmi

California

May 1st, 2011 02:37 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Well today it's even 'hissy-er'. With nothing plugged into the amp, if I turn up the volume knob on the drive channel the hiss is just too loud. Gotta be something wrong here!

CRAIG4FSU

Savannah,Georgia,USA

May 23rd, 2011 12:30 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Mine sounds like there is a blanket over the speaker.Lacks mid focus and clarity.It was painfully obvious in full band setting with my buddies Blackstar HT60 on the other guitar using either clean or over driven tones (sounded pretty darn good actually).Boss GE7 helped in the VM loop but was noisy.Tried just pushing a Avatar closed back V30 and same results.

I want to llike this amp and love my Fenders especially this for the simplistic grab & go design and on board effects,but jeeze.

Any tube upgrade suggestions and these arent fixed bias i'm sure?

Thanks and take care.





CRAIG4FSU

Savannah,Georgia,USA

May 28th, 2011 09:11 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

No insight?

cartdrph

USA

May 29th, 2011 09:31 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Hi , I have the Deluxe VM amp and I love it but with my Gretsch I noticed to my ear it needed more presence so now I use it with the Dyno brain found here http://thenocturnebrainseltzer.blogspot.com/
What this pedal adds to the sound of the amp is Very noticeable . Much more presence and fattens up the tone while adding not distortion but a amp played loud sound at any volume . This is always on when I play my Deluxe VM amp . I gig up to 4 times a week and this totaly works for me at any volume or room size from small to out dooor festival volume

EdMan57

San Diego,CA/USA

So many toys,so little time.
Jun 5th, 2011 06:47 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I just bought a Deluxe VM as more a less an impulse buy.I like the idea of a tube combo giving up classic Fender clean tones,a more than decent overdrive mode with some quite usable built in effects.Now I just need to get busy and read through this 300+ post thread.


Ed

EdMan57

San Diego,CA/USA

So many toys,so little time.
Jun 6th, 2011 12:47 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I've been doing some research into alternate speakers that might fit in the Deluxe VM tight quarters.I've read that there is maybe .25 inch between the speaker mag on the G12P-80 and the tubes/tranny.The speaker depth on the stock speaker is 119 mm,while the depth on the larger magnet Celestion Classic line is anywhere from 127 mm [G12T-75] to 165 mm [Alnico Blue].An earlier poster said that the G12 Vintage NEO fit in his Deluxe VM combo,which is listed as having a mounting depth of 124 mm.So that would lend me to believe that such Celestions as the G12T-100 and G12N-65 [both 124 mm] would also fit.

I usually only like the G12P-80 in closed back cabs and/or in darker sounding amps,but I'll see how I like it in the Deluxe VM.If not,I have a fresh G12T-100 that I'll try,as I tend to like it's overall voicing better than that of the Seventy/80.Btw,does anyone know if the magnet being so close to the tranny can cause any potential noise/tone problems?


Ed

EdMan57

San Diego,CA/USA

So many toys,so little time.
Jun 8th, 2011 06:02 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The Deluxe VM arrived today,and I'm really liking what I hear.Everyone is right about the tight speaker fit.Fortunately,the stock G12P-80 sounds pretty good,at least to my aging ears.Btw,I am a bit curious why the cabinet has to be built so shallow.Anyways,I find the overdrive side to be rich and articulate,with the entire gain sweep being quite useable.Also,I'm really liking the built-in delay.And I'm a big delay geek.I'm quite happy with my purchase of the Deluxe VM.

Ed

EdMan57

San Diego,CA/USA

So many toys,so little time.
Jun 11th, 2011 11:38 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Sorry if it seems like I'm just talking to myself with the last few posts being mine.Anyways,still loving the amp,but have another question for other VM owners.Is the effects loop set at line/pro,or at instrument/floor pedal levels?The manual does not clarify such,and the busy schematic just confuses me.


My TC Electronic Flashback Delay/Looper sounds great in the loop,but it is designed with enough headroom for use in almost any loop.I have a couple of other delays that are switchable between line/pedal levels and would like to match such to the VM's loop circuit.Anyone?


Ed

Mackers1970

London,England

all the best..............Pete
Jun 12th, 2011 06:10 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

can i ask you guys who own a deluxe reverb vm, does it have the same degree of tube sag that the DRRI has or is it not tube rectified ?

EdMan57

San Diego,CA/USA

So many toys,so little time.
Jun 12th, 2011 10:04 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The Deluxe VM uses a solid-state rectifier.I find the amp to give up an overall tighter and punchier response than the softer,spongier attack of most cathode biased/tube rectified circuits.



Ed

Mackers1970

London,England

all the best..............Pete
Jun 12th, 2011 10:17 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

how does the vm cope with distortion pedals ?

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