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Blaster
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Jan 3rd, 2009 07:15 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I always liked the Guild D55's and wondered how the quality of the Fender made ones? I heard that when Fender first took over the Guilds when they were made in R.I they weren't great quality. I know now that the Guilds are made in the Tacoma factory and wondered how they are?

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Lago

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Jan 5th, 2009 08:50 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I feel that Guild quality has always been terrific regardless of where they were made.

I've owned Guilds built in every location and all were outstanding. My current Guild stash includes:

'06 D-55
'06 F-412
'74 D-40
'77 D-50

You can't miss with Guild.

"Guild... Twice the guitar at half the price!"

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(This message was last edited by 6L6 at 07:53 PM, Apr 4th, 2010)

Florida Mike
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Feb 22nd, 2009 10:06 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

My Guild D55 With Dtar is a 2007 Tacoma built guitar. I like it a lot, it is really solidly built and great detail. Very full sound. The neck is a bit baseball battish compared to my Taylor or martin but is non the less fun to play. I have no negative things to say regarding quality at all, solid, nice craftsmanship, top notch fretwork, finish inlays etc. Pickup system is very nic, EXCEPT I hate the controls in the soundhole as live you cannot use a feedback buster rubber insert, so it is not as easy to control as the Taylor.

real54

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Feb 28th, 2009 06:17 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Differences in the old D55s vs the new CT D55s are -

30Ft radius to vs a 40 ft. - much more in line with more boutique approach with better mids and projection

Red Spruce ( aka Adirondak Spruce ) bracing with AAA Sitka Spruce top

Ebony headstock face rather than the phenolic resin ( plastic ) face.

Gotoh 700 series vintage open back tuners - real smooth, classy and light

Smaller neck heel ( where the neck joins the body ) much sleeker and easier to reach the upper frets.

Dual action truss rod -

Still shares the bone nut, bone bridge and bone bridge pins - All nitro finishes too!

Walnut strip between the 2 neck halves - the maple strip tended to react differently to humidity changes

The guitar sounds incredible - Nothing can touch it in it price point for sound, looks and class -
I finally got my CT D55 and it's beautiful



real54

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Feb 28th, 2009 06:20 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"30Ft radius TOP vs a 40 ft. - much more in line with more boutique approach with better mids and projection"



stratcowboy
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Feb 28th, 2009 09:08 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Hard to tell in your explanation which item goes with which era of D-55. It's a bit confusing...

real54

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Mar 2nd, 2009 07:38 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Guess you're right in a manner of thinking - All the feature upgrades outlined are part of the NEW D55 specs. Now go find one and enjoy!

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May 15th, 2009 09:21 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I just bought a Tacoma-made Ice-Tea Burst D-55 over the phone. I have to say, it was a disappointing experience. I've heard so many great things about Guilds, but the guitar sounded muted and dead. Furthermore, there wasn't something quite right on the fingerboard, so I took it into my local repair shop, and sure enough, the fret wires were pulling up right out of board. The guy at the repair shop asked me if it was an Asian-made guitar. When I replied that it was American-made, he couldn't believe it. I returned the guitar for a full-credit. I'm sort of getting turned off to the whole experience, and just may go through life without one of these, although they are pleasing to the eye.

stratcowboy
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May 15th, 2009 09:38 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

While I would not dispute your experience on this, "muted and dead" and "Guild" in the same sentence is usually not part of the English language. Just sayin'...

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Lago

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May 25th, 2009 03:24 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

What stratcowboy said.

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etsnyd
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May 29th, 2009 07:19 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I wish this hadn't happened, but it did. Now mind you, if I could find a great D-55 in a store I'd reconsider. But I'm just not going to go the telephone order route again. And the D-55's are so rarely stocked in stores, it always seems like it's a special order anyway. I would have really preferred one in the Ice-Tea Burst, but I understand that this color has been discontinued. I'd like the Antique Sunburst also, but not quite as much.

stratcowboy
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May 29th, 2009 09:38 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

You definitely gotta search for Guilds, no question about it.

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Lago

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May 29th, 2009 10:22 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Talk with FDP'er BingK. He'll set you up with a great deal and a great guitar.

Find BingK here:

Guitars of Montana

etsnyd
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May 31st, 2009 09:59 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Thanks, 6L6. I just may do that.

Fritz_D_Cat
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Jun 6th, 2009 01:50 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Big Guild fan, here, too. Mostly handled D40's D50's and the occasional F series.

Whenever a budding guitarist comes my way for a reco on a good bang for the buck, I put Guild at the top of the list, and been doing that for 30 years now (egad!)

etsnyd - sorry to hear of your experience. I feel the brand is worth a second try.

Deacon Blues
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Jun 14th, 2009 11:48 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"You definitely gotta search for Guilds, no question about it."

Evidently. I've been searching for one that sounds as nice as the one I should have bought in the mid 70's.

Fritz_D_Cat has one that I'd love to have.


JimmySee
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Oct 17th, 2009 09:04 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Doesn't Ritchie Havens play a D-40?

stratcowboy
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Oct 17th, 2009 09:21 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Yes.

6L6
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Lago

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Oct 20th, 2009 09:26 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"I finally got my CT D55 and it's beautiful..."

real54: Congrats! Can you post some pics?

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Solomio

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Oct 23rd, 2009 04:32 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I could be wrong on this, but I did speand alot of time on the Guild forum before purchasing my Guilds,a F212 XT,'76 Rhode Island F45CE and the Chinese made GAD 20.
The Rhode Island made Guilds are very much coveted by players and collectors.
Before RI they were made in New York, after RI they went to Corona (when Fender bought them ) where apparently the quality really went down hill and finally they moved to Tacoma where apparently quality has taken a big upturn.
solomio

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