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FDP Forum / Guild/DeArmond/Tacoma Guitars / Once again...no more (American) Guilds being made.

stratcowboy
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Oct 23rd, 2008 04:05 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

In the search for where to get my F47RC's boogered truss rod serviced under warranty (see other post...), I spoke (via phone) with a Fender rep who was visiting Fuller's Vintage Guitar in Houston and also the *empathetic* (ahhhhemmmm....) Fender phone folks in Scottsdale. Both mirrored the fact that there are no Guilds being made in either Tacoma (though they said theoretically that is where Amer Guilds would be made, if...) or Connecticut. So if you want one, you might want to find one. Otherwise it looks as though they will disappear again. They said there is no indication when any production will resume. Hmmmmmmm.....

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Lago

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Oct 24th, 2008 09:37 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

That doesn't sound right to me.

I think you'll see Guilds coming out of the CT factory by the end of the year.

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stratcowboy
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Oct 24th, 2008 10:39 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Perhaps. But, again, I spoke with customer relations in Scottsdale and one of the Fender field reps while he was at a Guild dealership (a very reputable one) in Houston. Same story from both of them. This is information that they volunteered, I didn't have to push them into explanations. Perhaps CT is still in the works. I have no way of knowing. However, something occurred to me last evening. And that is, perhaps, Guild is doing very well with their Chinese line of guitars (which I'll admit are quite nice). So they may have decided to build American Guilds just during certain cycles of the year--rather than devoting full-time employees to full-time production. That way they can periodically *sweeten* the marketplace with American Guilds while the Chinese Guilds do the heavy lifting (i.e., profit). Just a theory.

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Illinois

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Oct 28th, 2008 04:51 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Unfortunately I've been lied to so many times by Fender that I don't know what to think? One person will tell you they have seen CT Guilds and now this. Fender also said that Tacoma guitars would live on in CT and I have friends in Tacoma that say WRONG!

stratcowboy
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Oct 28th, 2008 07:11 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Well...whatever's going on, there sure ain't a bunch of them to be had. Wildwood is now a Guild dealer. And they have exactly TWO Guilds. This when they usually have 125 or more Eric Johnson Strats, or 100 Custom Shop Custom Classics. Again...whatever is going on, it is certainly difficult to get 'em.

76Strat
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Armpit of U.S. (NJ)

Black guitars look better in the shade!
Oct 29th, 2008 01:25 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

6L6's previous posting.

Took the following off the Guild Forum:

"Direct from Frank Untermyer, the GM of the New Hartford Kaman facility (below) [this is legit, by the way, not a Chazmo APWire fabrication ]:

Thanks for your interest, We're not ready for a tour. Once we are we probably will arrange for a more comprehensive tour, opening the facility to a larger group of people (we have long had tours for both the Ovation and Hamer web based fan clubs).

We have made real headway here on Guild. We've dedicated a large amount of space exclusively to
Guild. It's really good work space, you'll be happy. We've had our people train at Guild.

We're putting some of our best people into Guild
production. We have spent a good deal of time designing and fabricating the proper tools and fixtures that Guild has long deserved. We're all
very much into this project and are excited about returning Guild to its New England roots.

The exterior of our facility is much like Westerly
but we have renovated the interior so that the work space itself is nicer and far better suited for building guitars.

I know that there is much speculation out there about why Guild is being moved again. Rest
assured that this move is being looked at as Guild's last and is being made to insure that a rich American guitar tradition continues far into
the future."


You probably won't see any CT Guilds until Springtime at the earliest.


stratcowboy
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Oct 29th, 2008 07:30 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Almost a year ago they were saying the same thing. That new guitars would be coming in the spring from CT. Then spring came and went. So did summer. And finally American Guilds starting showing up in September. Who knows what they're up to. But it would be a shame to see them disappear.

Florida Mike
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United States

I can only Sing my Heart
Oct 29th, 2008 10:53 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I got my 2007 Guild d55 Tacoma built just in time. The comments about the exterior of the facility being like Westerly are almost childlike and meaningless (who cares)and the "were putting our best people on the Guild production" is hysterical...to build what, a guitar like an Ovation, this is funny stuff!!!!

John Evans
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USA Central Illinois

Life only sucks if you let it:
Oct 30th, 2008 09:26 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

What's wrong with Ovations? The Lyrachord back is different, but the tops, the bracing, the fret work, the attention to detail, etc. are all top-notch on the US made Ovations. And those same people build Hamer guitars too, so if FMIC is smart we should see some very well made Starfires again to.

Don't dismiss Kaman manufacturing skills because you don't like how Ovations sound, or if your only exposure to Ovations is the cheap import stuff that most stores carry.

jte

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Lago

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Oct 31st, 2008 07:32 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"Don't dismiss Kaman manufacturing skills because you don't like how Ovations sound, or if your only exposure to Ovations is the cheap import stuff that most stores carry..."

+1.

I LOVED my black Model 1869 Ovation Custom Legend's look, build quality, and FANTASTIC neck. The only reason I ever sold it is that better sounding pickups became available in other acoustic guitars.

Ain't nuthin' wrong with a nice Ovation, particularily the top end Custom Legends.

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Model 1869 Custom Legend

willie
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Lawrenceville, GA

"Sound Service Since Sixty-Two"
Dec 30th, 2008 09:14 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

+2...!!!!

willie
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CurtO
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USA

Are there power outlets in Heaven?
Jan 1st, 2009 06:52 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I spoke with Ed Treat, an FMIC rep on the phone a week ago. He said CT will be cranking out Guilds in the 1st quarter of 09. I'm sure that's an estimate, but I think we'll be seeing stuff relatively soon.

pakrbakr
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Frozen Tunda
Jan 14th, 2009 04:15 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

They would not be the first company to delay/slow down business plans to conserve/manage cash in this questionable economy.

6L6
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Lago

"Dyin' ain't much of a livin' "
Jan 17th, 2009 04:46 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

First reports on the new D-55 are very encouraging indeed!

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Florida Mike
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I can only Sing my Heart
Feb 22nd, 2009 12:01 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

6L6 -what First reports on the D55...

6L6
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Lago

"Dyin' ain't much of a livin' "
Feb 22nd, 2009 12:47 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Florida Mike: Keep an eye on the Forum linked below. Some of the boys have played a couple new D-55's from New Hartford and they love 'em!

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