FDP Home Page / FDP Forum / Classifieds / FAQ's / Links / Cookbook

The FDP is made possible by the following companies and individual members like you.
Please use the links below to show them we value their sponsorship.

Amazon

Amplified Parts

The Music Zoo

MOD KITS DIY

Antique Electronics Supply

WD Music

Jensen Loudspeakers

Bill Lawrence Pickups

www.thetubestore.com

Musician's Friend

Sweetwater

Guitar Center


* God bless America and our men and women in uniform *

* Illegitimi non carborundum! *

If you benefit and learn from the FDP and enjoy our site, please help support us and become a Contributing Member or make a Donation today! The FDP counts on YOU to help keep the site going with an annual contribution. It's quick and easy with PayPal. Please do it TODAY!

Chris Greene, Host & Founder

Registered Members: 64,000+

LOST YOUR PASSWORD?

......................................................................

  For Sale/Wanted Classifieds

 
FDP Jam
Calendar
Find musicians
in your area!
  Search the Forums  

ALL FDP MEMBERS CAN NOW POST IN MOE'S

FDP Forum / Non-Fender Gear Reviews / Peavey Windsor Studio ...The best deal going ??? Amazing ...

Previous 20 Messages  
framster

USA

Mar 8th, 2009 09:31 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I got my long-pan Reverb replacement from Mojo Musical Supply yesterday and put it in my WS. Light years better than stock, sounds great and big.

With the Jensen speaker, JJ 6L6GC power tube, along with a Fender HRDLX cover and Peavey footswitch, this amp is complete for my needs. I will use it for practice and indoor gigs.

For less than $475 total I couldn't do better for an awesome tone machine.

framster

USA

Mar 19th, 2009 07:03 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I used my WS at an outdoor restaraunt gig last weekend. It went very well, although I could've used a bit more clean headroom for the Norah Jones tunes. Now that I'm liking the Eminence Patriot speakers I might have an extra Texas Heat to try in the amp soon. Sounds fine with the Jensen though.

I saw a WS on Phoenix Craigslist for $250 yesterday.

framster

USA

Apr 23rd, 2009 09:07 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Today I swapped out V1 for an EH 12AY7. Now there is sufficient headroom for quieter music.

This has turned out to be a great amp all around. (I still need my Wife to trim the amp cover to fit perfectly though).

Velvet Quicksand

USA Marysville Oh.

It is what it is !
Apr 23rd, 2009 12:03 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I have a Vintage 30. Has anyone tried a V30 in the Windsor?

VQ

framster

USA

Apr 23rd, 2009 04:35 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I had one for my Traynor YCS that I sold. I wish I'd tried it in the Windsor.

Velvet Quicksand

USA Marysville Oh.

It is what it is !
Apr 24th, 2009 02:34 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I hooked up the Vintage 30 cab to the WS by itself. I don't think that's the sound I'm looking for either. The Blue Marvel stock speaker lacks bass and can be too bright for my tastes. The V 30 seemed to be too dark and maybe a little "muddy" sounding. I really like the V 30 speakers and am a little surprised that I don't like it better.
The WS is an open back cab and my extension speaker is in a closed back Fender GE 112 Cabinet. Could those factors be why? They sound pretty good together, but I do not want to move an amp AND an extension cab for just jam sessions with my buddies. If I were still playing gigs I wouldn't be that adverse to the cab because it always just stayed in the equipment truck until a gig. I'm thinking the only way to know is to put the V 30 in the amp (was trying to avoid that if possible). Long ramble short, do you guys think the difference is in the open/closed cab differences.

VQ

framster

USA

Apr 30th, 2009 06:39 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

If Brit-tone is your preference, try an Eminence Private Jack. Might just fit the bill. I got one for my Son's Gibson GA-15RV and he's leaving it in, preferring it over the stock V30. It opens the amp without losing Bass.

Velvet Quicksand

USA Marysville Oh.

It is what it is !
May 4th, 2009 12:15 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Thanks for the heads up, framster, but that doesn't answer my question.

framster

USA

May 12th, 2009 07:21 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Sorry about that! I do know that the open-back cab will cause a speaker to lose some "focus" at the frequency(s)that it was tuned to with the closed-back cab due to it's internal area. The tonal blend you achieve with both speakers probably won't be achievable with the open-back alone.

I wish I'd kept my V30 to try in the WS. It probably would have sounded very good. It was a very nice speaker in the Gibson and had tight, not boomey Bass.

CheapShoes
Contributing Member
*

USA/Saint Louis

May 21st, 2009 09:00 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

OK here's my recent experience. I added a Texas Heat, and did some light mods to the tone stack suggested by two folks on the single-ended amp site (thanks guys). Initially, the tone stack changes appeared to do little, but I think it was the speaker also. The Texas Heat just didn't do well in this amp and it would only go from muddy to spiky and back (if that makes sense). Back to the stock spkr, and much better, but still a lot of upper-mids.

Observations: the tone knobs are not independent to my ears, and also sensitive to your guitar tone knob and the preamp tube setting. I don't know if any of this makes sense, but this is what I'm observing. The mids knob and volume/preamp setting have the most effect; turning mids down removes the trebly mids and brings out the bass - say Bass on 9, mids on 3, treb anywhere in the middle. Get more bass & low-mids by dialing your guitar tone knob back, and cranking the preamp. I was in deep metal territory and I do not play that stuff). This will not work with the pre or power volume set low.

Obviously this isn't going to work for cleaner settings, so try dialing the power soak back and cranking the master way up? BTW I'm doing this on a Telecaster. Don't forget the tone knob on your guitar - that .02 cap dials out the shrill and leaves the cream when you crank this thing.

Or...maybe I'm just dreaming again.
CS


Leftee
Moderator

NC

May 22nd, 2009 04:38 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The TH needs a good beating for a few hours to break it in. I've got one I'm about to put in my VK112.

If the speaker/amp sounds "beamy" have a look in the "BEAM BLOCKER" thread in the Amp Mods and Repair forum here. Not at the Bean Blockers themselves, but at the foam donut. Really astounding change in an amp's tone.

(This message was last edited by Leftee at 04:41 AM, May 22nd, 2009)

CheapShoes
Contributing Member
*

USA/Saint Louis

May 24th, 2009 09:59 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I previously linked up my Blues Jr. and Epi VJ head to the WS cabinet w/stock speaker to test, and recall there is nothing wrong with the tone of the WS stock speaker. Perhaps more low end with some spkrs, but more muffled tones too. The issue seems to be the over-the-top upper-mids of the amp circutry and finding a speaker that works with that tone -- neither enhances it further or fights with it.

I moved the TH into my Epi Valve JR cab and it sounds fantastic - just not good in the WS. I also tried a 6550 tube in the WS, and like the improvement. Has anybody found a way to improve the caaaavernoooousss reverb without having to purchase a new one?

guitargeezer
Contributing Member
*********

Hotlanta, Jawga

G.A.S. guzzler
Jun 13th, 2009 09:38 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

""I was able to change the tube in about 10 minutes."


IMHO, that is inexcusable in an amp whose biggest selling point was to be the ease in swapping tubes and especially given the drawn out rollout of the amp."


I still haven't tried the Windsor Studio beyond a quick demo in a music store, but I have moderated my view on the ease of tube swaps. I guess that I've been spoiled by how easy the Fender amps that I've had are for tube swaps. Removing a few screws from the attenuator doesn't seem like much, anymore,and it is a lot easier than having to remove the back and a chassis...like some other brands.

Given framster and others' experiences, I may have to give a WS another look.

framster

USA

Aug 28th, 2009 06:48 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Still loving my WS. I'm using it in Contemporary Worship right now. It is a great match for my Boss GT-10 in 4-cable mode. The Amp Control on the GT-10 switches on-off the Boost on the WS. I keep the attenuator at about 25%. Another plus is the WS direct out sounds great through the PA. The Jensen has broken-in nicely through the months.

I have it on my left side while playing. I tilt the amp back some then point it just behind me. If I need a bit of feedback I just take a step back a bit.

framster

USA

Jul 8th, 2010 06:51 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I installed an Eminence Private Jack some months ago and the tone is better than ever. There are lots of Chinese tube amps out there for less money these days but the WS still rules with inexpensive speaker and long-pan reverb mods.

framster

USA

Nov 3rd, 2010 06:48 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I found that preamp tube swapping really changes the amp sound and response. For instance, to give the WS more clean headroom I substituted a 12AY7 in V1. I didn't notice alot of difference though. Last week I swapped a 5751 for the 12AX7 in V2. This swap allowed me to keep the attenuator at minimum, really opened and cleaned the sound dramatically. This week I'll swap the 6L6 for a KT66 for more power and headroom to complement the lower-gain preamp tubes.

It seems to me that "hi-gain" was designed into the WS. I'm glad it can be tuned for different uses. The result is very satisfying.

framster

USA

Nov 16th, 2010 08:00 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I'm finished with changing-out components on the WS. Re-capping everything I've done since buying the amp:
-Long pan Accutonics Reverb, great sound.
-Jensen Speaker, not bad.
-JJ KT88 Power Tube, very nice but expensive.
-JJ 6L6GC Power tube, better than stock EL34
-Eminence Private Jack speaker, best speaker of the 3 I tried.
-Winged C 6550 Power tube, best sound but amp got pretty hot.
-JJ KT66 Power tube, great sound-nearly as toneful as the 6550.


CheapShoes
Contributing Member
**

USA/Saint Louis

I can't deny Teles are my thing
Dec 1st, 2010 07:33 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I don't play mine much anymore with other options I have, but the type of high-gain sound the WS can get is unique, and very nice. I did play an outdoor gig once with it maxed out using the stock speaker - that was fun if not a bit mushy - pleny of bass when wound up. Right now I'm happy with a Celestion 12GT75 speaker and a 6550 power tube. The Mids control adds upper mid (read sqeaky) frequencies - turn up for HBs and way back for SC guitars and you will be happy.

framster

USA

Dec 2nd, 2010 05:50 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I should try another 6550. A Peavey engineer thinks the one I had in my WS was bad. I really-really liked the tone with it in there.

The 12AY7 and 5751 tubes I swapped-in for V1, V2 allow more clean headroom, and the tone controls seem to have more effect.

The amp sounds great for modern Christian music I use it for every week.

framster

USA

Feb 17th, 2011 05:48 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Still lovin' it!

Previous 20 Messages  

FDP Forum / Non-Fender Gear Reviews / Peavey Windsor Studio ...The best deal going ??? Amazing ...




Reply to this Topic
Display my email address             Lost your password?
Your Message:
Link Address (URL):
Link Title:




Moderators: Black Hole Gang  Chris Greene  EA6B  Iron Man  reverendrob  

FDP, LLC Privacy Policy: Your real name, username, and email
are held in confidence and not disclosed to any third parties, sold, or
used for anything other than FDP Forum registration unless you specifically authorize disclosure.

Furtkamp.com 
Internet Application Development

Copyright © 1999-2014 Fender Discussion Page, LLC   All Rights Reserved