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FDP Forum / The 'Pup' Tent / Abby Masterwounds, again...

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Single Malt Strat
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Jun 29th, 2008 08:01 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

SMark - as you already know, that is exactly what happened with the set I got as well... except they were received directly from Abby by the exec at Fender [who sold them to me]. Same story. Very interesting! Wonder what was going on at the time with gift sets... and more importantly, wonder what these sets were being wound for.

SMark
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"Life is good when you love your tone."
Jun 29th, 2008 08:52 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Yeah, I sure would like to know.

The seller seems to be a good guy. He did modify the auction to avoid confusion, but he really ought to remove one more picture and as well as his link to Harmony Central.

Single Malt Strat
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Jun 29th, 2008 09:13 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

SMark, yes, that link should be removed as this is definitely not the masterwound set from back in 2000-01... although it is certainly some sort of masterwound set by Abby. I also wonder if that box/sticker is appropriately matched with the set...

Anyway, one of these days, we will have to get this set I own into your hands to compare them to the ones you have. I'd love to understand how they sound in direct comparisons.

Maybe, achase4u could be our test-ears!

Then again, maybe, I should just be quiet and go practice some more! :)



SMark
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Jun 29th, 2008 09:57 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Aaron has good ears!

;^)



That sticker has the same numbers and description as the one that came with my Masterwounds. I'm betting that set 274 (which is the number on the Cert that this guy has) was installed into a Strat and the box just got reused and passed along until it got connected with these newer pickups.

rfrakes331K

USA

RonHalen Jokingly He Says
Jun 29th, 2008 10:23 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Thanks SMark

Achase4u
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Jun 29th, 2008 10:58 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

LOL - Well thanks! I still think you guys have the best ear/descrip combo. Your able to hear things between so many different pickups, and not only that you can articulate those nuances into words. Its great! Im learning :-)

I'd love to hear more of the abby masterwounds some day though. I would be intrigued if Fender let the CS guys loose on the winders and sold different master built pickups...

SMark
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Atlanta, GA USA

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Jun 29th, 2008 11:40 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

At least a couple Master Builders have been known to wind their own. I've always wondered if Fender has a growing stash of hand wound Abby's somewhere. After all, she is going to retire someday, don't you think?

Of course, she's already immortal in my book...

1958Bassman
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Jun 30th, 2008 02:03 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"So he likely refunded the buyers money and then sold them again, but as damaged."

So, he did a bad packing job, they were damaged in shipping and someone was compensated by the shipper (maybe) and now he sold them again? If they were OK the first time, it's not a Fender QC issue, at all.

SMark
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Atlanta, GA USA

"Life is good when you love your tone."
Jun 30th, 2008 04:09 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

And that's good to know.

Iversen
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Jul 1st, 2008 01:33 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"The owls are not what they seem."

Hefty starting price in any case.

jaxworlds
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wheres my bungie?
Jul 2nd, 2008 02:42 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Single Malt.. does your set exactly resemble the set for sale, down to the kind of wire and the color of the bobbins? Also what is your opinion of the reserve price on this? than ks/..

Single Malt Strat
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Jul 2nd, 2008 06:53 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Yes, jaxworlds... exact match including wires, crossed wires [easy fix, just need to check before wiring up] on the 11/17 pickup [mine is wired to the middle position] and bobbins & magnet stagger. To my ears, they are a great set of pickups...very vivid and articulate, with a sound that blends the best of the 54's, the 60's and the 69's, if that's possible. The bass strings sound bold without getting flabby, the treble has ample bite wide open and rounds out very tastefully. It will be necessary to use modern tone wiring [controls on the bridge as well] to get the best out of the bridge p'up. And I would avoid a brightening cut of wood with these... they are plenty bright on their own.

Unless Abby speaks up, it will be hard to say what they really were designed for... whether they were specially wound for gift sets or designed/wound for a specific limited master-built series, or as suggested, fender thinking ahead to the future and getting Abby to wind a bit of her usual magic for some future generation. Any way you look at it, they are worth much more than the average CS sets and easily on par with the quality boutique sets. Three thin slices of legendary tone... sure to grow into a working arsenal or a collector's stockpile. That is how I view it.

Specific valuation of such items is always a challenge. I defer to tone-veterans like SMark on such matters. But, IMHO, of course, if you can pick them up at/around the starting bid price and hold on to them for a few years, I see no reason why they will not make you smile as a player, and, most likely, as a future seller. Worst case, you pay a negligible 'rental' for some serious & proven tones.

Hope that helps, Jax.

SMark
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Jul 2nd, 2008 07:55 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

If you look at the auction now, you will see that some of our discussion here has made it's way into the auction. I've had a few exchanges with the seller and he seems to be a very up-front guy. He even sent me a few pics that he took of Abby during the time he was at the factory, and one pic even shows Abby holding a set from this batch of pups.

jaxworlds
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wheres my bungie?
Jul 2nd, 2008 10:55 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

He wrote me back too, answered a few questions.. he mentioned these were a gift and he actually met Abby and watched her wind some pups.. by the way they are NOT enamel..

rfrakes331K

USA

RonHalen Jokingly He Says
Jul 2nd, 2008 11:54 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I want to try a set of Abby Masterwounds, but not for that kind of coin!

SMark, I removed about 300 winds from the Neck and 481 winds from the Mid. They still measure around 5.59K. It was a tedious job pulling wire off because if you pull too hard, the wire breaks. At any rate, I will try these tonight.

Thanks for the help and posting the original auction!

Single Malt Strat
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Jul 2nd, 2008 12:07 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

For those of you wanting a couple of views of the set I got with the same dates, pics are now in profile [the pre-wired shot is from the member I got it from here on FDP].

(This message was last edited by Single Malt Strat at 12:50 PM, Jul 2nd, 2008)

Poster Nutbag
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Jul 2nd, 2008 03:40 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Well, I just looked at the auction and I can tell you with 100% confidence that both the seller and the pups are legit. I know this person well, and I was there--at the Custom Shop--when he got these pickups.

Like me, the seller is not the most technical person around and I can easily understand any mistakes he has made in the description. But at the end of the day, Abby wound these by hand, by herself. They're the real deal.

M-

Single Malt Strat
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Jul 2nd, 2008 03:49 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Thanks very much, PN/M. As I stated before, they do sound awesome!

SMark
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Atlanta, GA USA

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Jul 2nd, 2008 06:06 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Matt, the seller, is a really nice guy. He even said that if he can back to see Abby again this summer, he will ask her about the swapped pickup leads. He's quite curious about it himself.


Matt should be a guitar player...

SMark
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Atlanta, GA USA

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Jul 6th, 2008 08:00 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

rfrakes331K...

How are those Relic 60s pups sounding?

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