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FDP Forum / Sing, Sing, Sing! - Vocalist's Forum / Shure SM58 and the Beta 58

Tori
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Dec 15th, 2007 07:10 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I now that the Shure SM58 is an industry standard......but are there any benefits to using the Shure Bet SM58?...

RavenRP
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Dec 23rd, 2007 05:52 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I have wondered about this as well, but at nearly three times the price I may never know.

Yet they are all you see on the big money stages so I would like to know if they are worth it or not.

Anyone?


steze
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Dec 24th, 2007 09:24 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I recently bought a Beta 58 (I'm having the guts taken out and put into the 55-sh "Elvis" mic). The Beta 58 is just as rich sounding as the regular 58, but it's punchier and has greater high end clarity. I think it sounds noticeably better than the standard 58.

balzakjeff
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Dec 24th, 2007 09:44 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The Beta has a slightly frequency different emphasis, a little more low-mid range, if I recall. But a bigger difference is that it is supercardiod, so you have to stay on axis.

It is often preferred by the pros that come through the venue I work at.

beta 58

Bad Dog
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Dec 27th, 2007 03:04 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I've used both. I'll 2nd balz, although the beta sounds the tiniest bit sweeter for vocals, its biggest advantage is the slightly higher gain before feedback. It gets that from the tighter pickup pattern, i.e. the volume drops more quickly as you move off axis or away. This makes it a little harder to use unless you practice.

bongo122819

usa

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Jan 8th, 2008 01:46 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

my 2 cents.......
I used an SM58 for years until a band mate had me try his Beta58 and I'm sold - it just sounds better to my ear and is more sensitive to dynamics. Just better all around.

emdub123
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Jan 8th, 2008 01:59 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

+1 on the Beta 58

You can get them from authorized shure dealers on ebay for about $125 if I'm not mistaken.

I would describe the difference as being more flattering. I like my voice (and other peoples) better through this mic than the regular 58 or a 57 for that matter. It also does double duty for recording snare and guitar amps.

Ragtop
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Feb 1st, 2008 07:35 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I started using a Beta a few months ago, like it a lot. It seems to smooth out my voice, and make it richer, especially in the midranges.

I picked mine up for $149, which was the going price everywhere I looked.

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Feb 3rd, 2008 09:30 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Aside from the improved sound, the beta also uses a neo magnet--making the capsule lighter in weight and therefore more rugged.

route kanal
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Feb 4th, 2008 10:53 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Yea, I have to go with 'silky, creamy and residing on the pastel palette' for my review. My poor 58 is feeling shunned.

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May 2nd, 2010 03:02 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Regarding the axis question and it being harder to use if you're not used to it:

We somtimes sing with two of us on a mic - you know, doing the rock & roll harmony thing - would the beta be bad for that?

gmanNJ

Joisey

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May 3rd, 2010 01:03 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

yes the frequency pattern is pretty tight with the B58 so you could not sing across the mic facing each other. but you could both be cheek to cheek and sing into it. The thing is you need to be near the capsule (think eat the mic) so I dont know if it would work doubling up on vox

I would assume that if the mic was hot it would not be so bad. But you woudl have to play with it to find the sweet spot for dual vox



gmanNJ

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May 3rd, 2010 01:09 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I am looking at the Beta 87A which is a live use condensor mic. From what I have been reading they really reject feedback and give that warm condensor sound to your voice.

You can get a non-gray box one for about $200
If it causes issues I will use it as a studio mic and get the B58

mrblues
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May 3rd, 2010 02:24 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Thanks gman. Guess we'll stick with our plain ol' regular 58's.

kevinpenguin
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Jun 27th, 2010 12:19 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Steze - who is transplanting a 58 into one of the Elvis mics? One of my elvis mics is dying slowly...

Thanks! Email light is on. I'm in the Chicago burbs with you.

I like the 58s. Either or. If I'm not singing into my own 58, I'll use a Beta. But I like carrying around my own mic for now. Just seems germy not too.

Peegoo
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Jun 27th, 2010 01:49 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

If you haven't tried one yet, check out the Electrovoice ND-967.

It's a passive neo-mag dynamic mic that has huge gain before feedback and stupefyingly good off-axis rejection. They are as ruggedly built as a 58.

I've A-B'd these with Shure 58s and premium Sennheisers in a live situation, and simply swapping in the EV on the mic stand gives a huge gain boost. GC blows these out for $99 once in a while.

This.

kents
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Jun 27th, 2010 04:58 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Geno,

I snagged every one of those 967's I could find when GC blew them out for $99.

Its my number one live mic.

Plus, you sound more like Elvis.

Peegoo
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Jun 27th, 2010 05:05 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Ah-huh-HUH!

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