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FDP Forum / Fender Amps: Vintage (before 1985) / Help me identify this Princeton Reverb Amp

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Fiesta Ray

Pewaukee, WI USA

Mar 1st, 2015 02:29 PM   Edit   Profile  

Late to the party, and none of the picture links work. Can you post or link to a picture of the faceplate with the red lettering, please?

Randy

lau70

Mission Viejo, CA

Mar 1st, 2015 11:32 PM   Edit   Profile  

Try this

SF PR faceplate

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Mar 2nd, 2015 06:38 AM   Edit   Profile  

thanks for the picture update... reading through this was driving me nuts as the old links don't work...lol


the grill cloth appears to be more blackface than silverface...hard to tell from the pictures..
pretty cool looking. Don't think I've ever seen one of these...

Martin G
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Canada

Mar 2nd, 2015 06:15 PM   Edit   Profile  

"thanks for the picture update... reading through this was driving me nuts as the old links don't work...lol"

Same here. Grill cloth looks blackface to me too. Silverface had blue in it.


carsten

on the rhine

Mar 3rd, 2015 01:18 AM   Edit   Profile  

Hi guys!

Sorry, not much more info from me - except that the "alu-trim" puts it into the very early sf-era, so that could be the reason why the grillcloth may well be left-over from the bf-era...
Also, at the time Fender introduced the "Bronco" amp and guitar - a beginner´s set with a re-named Vibro-Champ and a simple guitar - and the labelling on the early Bronco-Amps was red, too! Perhaps they just tried the red lettering on a couple of amps at the time...

cheers - C.

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Mar 29th, 2015 06:43 PM   Edit   Profile  

To me an upgraded cord/plug is a plus, not a minus. Get it replaced for sure!

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Mar 29th, 2015 07:22 PM   Edit   Profile  

As far as I know, the only red lettered faceplate was on the '68 Bronco. With this PR, I'd guess the guy doing the faceplates was changing over from Bronco faceplates to PR and just decided to use the remaining red ink in his silk screen.
Fender didn't waste anything. I have had 2 very rare Fender amps, both covered in cream tolex. One was a '61 Concert, one was a '59 Bandmaster amp that was in a tweed type cabinet but covered in cream tolex. Both original.

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Jul 21st, 2015 11:21 AM   Edit   Profile  

Great read and a helluva find!

Congrats and thanks for the pics!

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Jul 21st, 2015 11:30 AM   Edit   Profile  

Rare for sure. This amp may have been made with these cosmetics as a special run for a large retailer. It may have been packaged with a guitar. Just guesses.

The grill looks like aged SF cloth to me.

lau70

Sacramento, CA

Sep 14th, 2018 11:37 PM   Edit   Profile  

Haven't played the amp in a few years :/

Will be taking this over to Skip Simmons in the Sacramento area for some maintenance.

I hope everyone's been well.

socal
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Sep 25th, 2018 10:42 AM   Edit   Profile  

Hi lau70, Great thread. Glad you bumped it with the update. Read the whole thing & was wondering if your friend gave you any info about the amp? Was he/she the original owner? Was it in the family? Etc, etc. It would be good to know as much history as possible (of which you are a part) as this is a very rare item & since PRs are so beloved. You prolly would have included that info already, but I just wanted to ask you.

I have never seen a red-lettered faceplate either [besides the previously-mentioned Bronco amps which were coupled with the entry-level, late 60s Bronco guitars (all of which were red also) to serve the beginner players & was a promotional package for the Fender dealers].

Thanks for the original post. Great Fender history stuff, lau70!

(This message was last edited by socal at 01:16 PM, Sep 25th, 2018)

lau70

Sacramento, CA

Sep 27th, 2018 02:04 AM   Edit   Profile  

Hello Socal- I was able to find the friend on facebook and asked- he said it belonged to his grandpa. That's all the info I have for now.

Skip Simmons did some maintenance for me and he was blown away also- said he's never seen or heard of any other SF with the red-lettered faceplate. Sounds like he asked around his network of amp guys and no one else had seen or heard of it either.

Skip said it's legit- (almost 100%) original chassis, tubes, transformers too!

For kicks, I just purchased a 1968 SF Black line, drip edge Bronco so I can have the siblings in the collection.

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Sep 27th, 2018 02:16 AM   Edit   Profile  

That is a very cool amp.

Have you contacted Fender and asked for some background on this rare beast? They have a history officer who can dig through the archives and see why the red lettering escaped the factory.

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Sep 27th, 2018 12:31 PM   Edit   Profile  

This is the only red letter SC amp, aside from the Bronco, that I have seen.

And there’s a red letter Bronco on Reverb, right now. I’ve had the itch to snag it.

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Sep 27th, 2018 02:10 PM   Edit   Profile  

... and I tossed an offer out and it was accepted.

lau70

Sacramento, CA

Sep 27th, 2018 09:00 PM   Edit   Profile  

Peegoo- I didn't know they have a history officer at Fender. I'll try to reach out to them.

Leftee, congrats! I saw that one too- looked very clean.

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VA

Sep 28th, 2018 01:20 PM   Edit   Profile  

Lau70,

The one with the broken knob? That’s the one I bought. I have knobs floating around in my bins. I’ve never owned a Vibro-Champ before. I’m really looking forward to this amp.

lau70

Sacramento, CA

Oct 2nd, 2018 02:46 AM   Edit   Profile  

Leftee- it must have been a different one. The one I looked at is still listed for sale. Have you played it yet? Thoughts?

Silverface

Lawndale CA

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Oct 14th, 2018 05:55 PM   Edit   Profile  

That is a mid-1967 "vertical black line" drip-edge Princeton Reverb. The circuit is normal but the cosmetics obviously unusual. I've seen a few others and the theory around vintage guitar shows is that they were NAMM show amps.

They are rare, but not much more valuable than any other "VBL/drip edge" PR - maybe a hundred or so more. But they are SO good as home, small club and recording amps I wouldn't sell it - it's only going to increase in value.

I would NOT turn it on again,, though, until the filter cap can and bias cap are replaced. They only have a 15 or so year service life, and can blow with no warning. If that happens it can permanently damage the power transformer, - an expensive repair that also will lose you quite a bit in vintage value.

I would not take chances as the filter cap assembly appears to be original. It should go to a qualified amp tech ASAP to have that work done, voltages checked, tubes replaced only if necessary, the bias checked and adjusted as required, and pots/jacks cleaned & lubed. This is normal tube amp service - like changing oil in a car - and should be done every 15 years or so.

Nice find!

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Oct 15th, 2018 05:23 AM   Edit   Profile  

lau70,

Sorry! I lost track of this thread. Yes, I have a thread running on this amp.

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