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FDP Forum / Fender Product Reviews / VM Squier Thinline Telecaster

IPLAYSTRATS

USA

Sep 14th, 2007 01:32 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

This particular Tele appears to be coming out of China as of 07. The build quality is superb and nothing like I am use to seeing on Squiers.

If this is any indication of the Squiers to come from China? Fender will find thenselve's in a world of trouble with the compitition.

First off the fret-work is the best I have ever seen on a Squier...Bar None. I swapped the stock 9's out for XL 10-46's. I had a good chance to examine the fretboard and fret-job with a magnifying glass. I could not find a flaw on the frets. No marks, tool dings, nothing but uniform, perfectly filed and rounded medium-jumbo frets. The attention the the ends of the frets again was nothing like I ever seen on a Production Line Fender. never mind Squier. The Rosewood piece used for the fretboard was a perfect selected, nicely grained, dark slab of Rosewood. The nut is usable but trash. Yet it was very well cut and shaped.

The Tuning machines are of the same Squier has been using......for example of the 51. They are the same Scheller type knock-offs. They seem to be of so-so quality. Yet they have worked great on my 51 the last 18MTHS so I asume there will be no issue on the Thinline. Squier eliminated one String-Tree and is going with One String-Tree on the Thinline. But the break angle coming over the nut to the Tree is perfectly level on all six strings? Nicely done.

The string path indicates that the guitar is set-up and crafted damn near perfectly. The real estate on both outer side's of the E strings is even and very good. Lots of space on bothe side's. Strings line up dead center going up the fret-board. Dots are directly in the middle of the D+G strings. Well set-up and crafted Telecaster.

The pick-ups are of the best I have ever heard for Duncan Designed. They are clear, clean, balenced, and can handle extreme volume and gain with no squealing or howling. I A/B'd these with my tele loaded with Seymour Duncan Alnico II Pro's. The SD's were a little more percussive and not as biting. Just a bit smoother also. But these DD's are nothing to sneeze at. The output level was exactly the same? Impressive. The light vary in Tone I find very usefull and really dig the pick-ups in the Thinline. These remind me very much of late 60's stock Telecaster pups. No need to change these. I find them slightly more desirable and vocal than my original SD's in my 52 Tele.

Hardware is usable. But whats worth noting is that the Bridge and its screw pattern is completely swappable with Fender, Wilkinson or any aftermarket Fender Tele bridge. This is also a first fir Squier. And the stock harware is very usable and not bad. The 6-barrel Vintage style Tele bridge intonates perfectly and sounds great.

The remainer of the electronics are also better than the usual Squier. The 3-way switch is much sturdier, fluid, and quieter than any 3-way I have seen Squier offer in the past.

The body is Alder and finished nicely. I see NO issues with the finish what-so-ever. The neck pocket is about as snug as it could posibly be. Neck is a Modern C and about the same thickness as the American serie's necks. Its finished in Satin which IMO make's it nice to slide around the neck on. Looking at the neck from both side's and putting a straigh edge to it? The neck is perfectly straight.

The ONLY issue I found with this Tele was the string ferruls. They were not secured to the body for whatever reason and came right off during the string change. Though this was a simple fix. Yet worth noting so you don't loose one during a string change.

All in All a very seductive sounding, beautiully voiced Thinline. That happens to be a pleasure to play. The action is excellent. And using Gibson'd shorter scale certainly makes it a breeze moving around and fretting chords and notes with very little finger pressure.

This is a fantastic value that I will certainly get years of enjoyable use out of.

I rarely see fret-work this good on Gibson USA and Fender Production-Line. Maybe its a one-of that a certain craftsman just got into working on? But if this is any indication of things to come from Squier? fender will have to raise the bar or loose business. I initailly Demo'd this Thinline next to a 06 HWY-1 Tele. The pick-ups sounded better on the Squier. I downplayed the situation, but was smart enough to purchase the guitar.

Then getting home and A/Bing this with real Seymour Duncan's. And to boot...once again i prefer the DD pups to the SD's?

This is saying a LOT. Personally I can't wait to play another one of these. My curiosity is getting the best of me? Is this a freak one of a kind? Or will other Thinline's prove to be every bit as good?

I will update as soon as I play another.

(This message was last edited by IPLAYSTRATS at 01:33 AM, Sep 14th, 2007)

abramson
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Atlanta, GA

Sep 14th, 2007 02:37 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Very thorough review. I was thinking about doing one since Iíve had my VG Thinline for a few weeks now, but that about covers it. Iíll add my approval of the Duncan Designed pups as well. After my guitar tech did some very minor setup work on it he mentioned Iíd want to be changing out those pups at some point (he hadnít plugged it in yet). I said I kinda liked them so to show me the difference in quality he played a 52 reissue through a 68 Deluxe then plugged in the VG and played it for a few minutes. Sat there a while and finally said ďNever mind. Leave Ďem in thereĒ. Oddy, my last two Fenders have been Squiers (the VG and a 51) and they are both so much better than the Squiers from before. Especially the necks and pups.

IPLAYSTRATS

USA

Sep 15th, 2007 04:36 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I know, pretty impressive. The DD's are also Cloth shielded and the Bridge has a Copper plate?

You don't see that on American Serie's Tele's!

Another area you might want to take a good listen to. The E+B string tree. Though the break angle over the nut was excellent and even with all the strings.

The washer is just a bit to high, not placing enough downward pressure on the E+B IMHO.

I had a older Tele round disk style String Tree around that I wasn't using. I looked at the two side by side and the Disk was a quarter shorter.

So I dropped that on and retuned the E+B and a much nicer ringing Tone now.

(This message was last edited by IPLAYSTRATS at 04:14 PM, Sep 18th, 2007)

Coral Head
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Sunshine&Hurricanes

Still playing after all these years
Sep 16th, 2007 05:06 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Thanks for the review....what are the first letters of your serial number. It seems that CY designates the best of the factories producing Squiers.

Thx

IPLAYSTRATS

USA

Sep 17th, 2007 06:17 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Mine is CY07 etc etc etc. So the CY indicate's China? I assume the 07 is the year. Any info on the rest?

Multi Meter testing on the pickups has varied from Tele to Tele. On mine they read 7.0 and 7.4.

Some are suggesting that they recieveing #'s like, 5.8 and 6.6? That sounds wrong to me, but I wouldn't say its impossible. Also the question comes up................Which pick-ups are being copied. I assume its Seymour Duncans 52 set?

(This message was last edited by IPLAYSTRATS at 01:33 PM, Sep 18th, 2007)

Coral Head
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Sunshine&Hurricanes

Still playing after all these years
Sep 17th, 2007 11:06 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The following is plagiarized from a thread on the Squier forum

Chinese Squiers:

YN: Y = Yako (Taiwan). The second character refers to the decade N = Nineties (1990's). And the first number following is the year. So, for example "YN6" = 1996. This form is associated with Made in China Affinitys (with the standard body thickness of 45mm/1.75).

CY: Y = Yako (Taiwan) C = China. CY is followed by 2-digit year. CY appears on most models produced in China, and is by far the most common form. These forms are apparently associated with the change to Crafted in China, so post-1996 models only would have this form of serial number.
Some Chinese Gretsch's use a CY serial number.
YN is associated with 'made in china' rather than 'crafted in china' and 1996 was the year they swapped to 'crafted in china' and mostly CY prefixes.
Miscellaneous Chinese serials: CD, CT, CJ, NC: C = China, the first number following the serial number prefix is the year.
Probably made by Yako (Taiwan).
Squier serial numbers beginning with CA are made by Axl China.


IPLAYSTRATS

USA

Sep 18th, 2007 01:37 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Very Interesting. Thanks for the research!

Honestly? I've toyed with the idea several times already about swapping the pick-ups. But can't see it! Hard when I have a SD Alnico II Pro neck hanging around. But I refuse to do this. I just love the cleans. Sounds Superb!

IPLAYSTRATS

USA

Sep 28th, 2007 07:45 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

BTW I finally pulled the Tele apart. I wanted to remove th PG Plasic.

So I had a good look at the guts and internal route.

Very impressive! The pots are full size 250K and good quality. The swith is a Blade and very similar to the US serie's Production Line Switchs. The wiring and solder joints are all clean and nicly done.

The F-Hole route contiue's around the bridge and around to the bottom bout of the guitar. The guitar has a center block. I assume its made of ALDER but am NOT positive. The internal route very much reminds me of a 335 is made. I'm not sure how the original Thinlines were routed out. But I always thought the Tone chamber was only on the Top with the F-Hole. So this is a little different. The Thinline resonates very nicly acousticly.

I continue to be impressed with this guitar at every turn. MOF I am searching for a Shoreline Gold I could play in person and possibly buy. Thats how impressed I am with this Baby.

Also I do not know if the bridge is Steel with Steel saddle's? I read it was. But I think it may not be ANYONE?

(This message was last edited by IPLAYSTRATS at 07:47 AM, Sep 28th, 2007)

leon the pirate

Greece

Oct 1st, 2007 04:44 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

why don't you test the bridge and saddles with a magnet?

IPLAYSTRATS

USA

Oct 7th, 2007 12:43 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Yes I have to do this!

IPLAYSTRATS

USA

Oct 8th, 2007 12:12 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

OK finally put the magnet on the bridge and saddle's. Your not gonna believe it but they are both STEEL.

Tele continues to impress.

I also remove the plastic nut. which is better quality than others I've done on Squires. I have a tin coffee can with them. The VM is definatly a better nut than the others, But still plastic.

Anyway they are super glued in so be carefull if you remove yours. Don't want to start chipping the fretboard.

I put on a Bone nut and really can't hear much difference. Lot of work also. Had to cut, chiesel. and break out the X-Acto knife to get the old out? Anyway its done.

Bitch, Have one being shipped to me for work, and am going to have to do this all over again this week? Sucks. Trust Me leave the Orig. on!

(This message was last edited by IPLAYSTRATS at 12:14 PM, Oct 8th, 2007)

fendrguitplayr
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Greater Boston

Where suspense is never in short supply.
Oct 8th, 2007 12:19 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Very interesting review. Thanks for posting. I'll post a link to this git.

VM Squier Thinline Tele

mistabreeze
Contributing Member

southeast Georgia

Oct 27th, 2007 01:19 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

thanks for the review. Ive been thinking about getting a MIM Tele thinline..they are going around$699 at MF....then I saw the Squier tele thinline. I was skeptical....but by your review..seem like a good deal.

Pro Guitar Driver

USA

GuitarDawg
Nov 30th, 2007 03:20 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I have one in gold. A very nice deal indeed!

2Buck Chuck

New Jersey, USA

rock on.
Mar 5th, 2008 06:03 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

my local GC finally got one. I have to agree with the original poster, the fretwork was very well done. I would not have expected that on such a low cost Chinese-made guitar. By comparison the frets on a Highway 1 strat were terrible - as were the frets on most of the other lower cost Fenders. The only "good" fretwork I found was on an American Deluxe Strat.

Why can't Fender get the quality right?

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