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treeman
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USA

Aug 28th, 2007 11:40 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I have been using a 57 for vocals for quite a while and I'm happy with the results. A drummer turned me on to it. I didn't know about the windscreen. I'll have to get one.

6V6man
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Aug 28th, 2007 01:44 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"How can a windscreen change the richness of tone?"

Special nano-fibers molded into the foam transform even the harshest-voiced singer into a velvet-throated crooner... just kiddin'! ;-)

It doesn't change the tone, it just reduces breathing noise so the 57 is usable as a vocal mic.

On a side note:
A few weeks ago I was running sound at an outdoor festival, and it was so windy I had to put the windscreens on the 57s I was using to mic amps with.

SmokinPickin
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The Edge of Ruin

Aug 28th, 2007 03:00 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I noticed that Steven Tyler of Aerosmith uses a 57 for his vocals.

6V6man
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Ypsi-Ann, Mich'gan

27 watts O' Princetons!
Aug 28th, 2007 03:46 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

That settles it then! 57s all around!

Hey Doug!

Chikpicker
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Toad Suck,Arkansas

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Aug 28th, 2007 05:08 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I've used 58 and 57 with a windscreen...I still like 58 better...just sayin'

BBQ Gord

CANADA

Didn't chew kill my bruvah?
Aug 28th, 2007 09:50 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I remember Shure's ads from "back in the day" pictured Roger Daltrey with a 57.

6V6man
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Ypsi-Ann, Mich'gan

27 watts O' Princetons!
Aug 28th, 2007 09:53 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"I still like 58 better...just sayin'"

Me too, now that I have a 58. Plus, I like the on/off switch.

melodymaker 145

USA

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Sep 1st, 2007 09:26 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

A lot of it has to do with which mic you sound better on in your and other's opinions. In the studio they will not use just one mic for everyone. If you just feel more confident on one mic you probably sound better. Personally, I feel better singing through a 58. I played with a vocalist a long time ago that LOVED his Radio Shack mic. We could hardly ever talk him out of using it, and he actually did sound good through it. This is not just mental. Different mics have different EQ curves, so you will find one that enhances your strong points, and covers for some of your weak. I have a very midrangey voice, and the 2K spike on the 58 helps me not sound so muffled.

clark bjorke
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Sep 2nd, 2007 09:36 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

If I had my way everyone would use 57s or 58s. It makes the soundperson's job easier. Radio Shack, ugggh!




Edited for political correctness, BWAHAHAHAHAHA!

(This message was last edited by clark bjorke at 09:37 AM, Sep 2nd, 2007)

LeonB
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Sep 3rd, 2007 05:36 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"Everyone would use 57s or 58s."

My first mics were Shure 585s. When they were stolen I bought 545s, then 57s, because I thought they sounded better. IIRC 57s have a slightly wider freq. response.

I moved on to EV 10/16 types on a pro's suggestion and found I liked the diminished proximity effect.

My latest move has been into some AT condensers that I think sound really good.

I do some sound at a world famous venue, and the house bag of tricks includes 57s, 58s, Beta 58s, and ATM 41s.

You use what you got, and do the best you can with what you got. They all have their own little quirks, and everyones ears are a bit different.

Se la guerre!

One Drop
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Sep 3rd, 2007 11:12 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"Se la guerre!"

Them's fighting words!

(almost)

Extra Crispy
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Oregon USA

The older I get, The better I was
Sep 4th, 2007 09:25 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The reason I prefer the 57 w/windscreen, is that the foam screen protects me from grounding shock. (accidental or intentional) These days I think it's simply a mental security blanket... YMMV

6V6man
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Ypsi-Ann, Mich'gan

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Sep 5th, 2007 10:23 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The thing I don't like about the 57 windscreen is the way it seems to attract cat fur! I have to clean them off every once in a while, with a piece of duct tape, otherwise people get tickled by the fur. Or like my girlfriend, they're allergic to it! On the other hand, the fur from three different cats kind of gives it an interesting look... ;-)

(This message was last edited by 6V6man at 10:24 PM, Sep 5th, 2007)

Dr. Mark
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Sep 6th, 2007 07:14 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

SM57's have one major advantage over SM58's when it comes to vocals. They have a much narrower "cone" of signal pickup.

If you only have one singer, this is of no consequence, but if, like my band you have three mics across the front of the stage, it is a definate help in prventing spill over from the lead vocalists mike in the centre, into mine and the guitarists backing vocal mikes. It also helps in rejecting spill over from the drums, guitar amps and monitors.

On small stages, this effect is more apparent. We have noticed a definate decrease in feedback problems since my guitarist and myself (the lead singer still uses an SM58) swapped to SM57's.



Extra Crispy
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Oregon USA

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Sep 6th, 2007 01:46 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

6V6man, I've heard of singing cats, even saw one play the piano on youtube. But i've never heard of one using a mic before. That's a-mazing.
I'll just assume it uses a boom stand.


6V6man
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Ypsi-Ann, Mich'gan

27 watts O' Princetons!
Sep 6th, 2007 09:51 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Well... my name's Mike, and our cats use me all the time... as a kitty bed. Come to think of it, that must be why I'm always covered in cat fur too...

M5

Germany

Sep 11th, 2007 04:40 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Been using the SM 58 since it's introduction in the 70's....

Still, if they give me an SM 57, it's just fine by me. Makes no big difference, if you have been singing rock since 1958.....

Charlie Macon
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Texas

Yeeeehaaaa!
Dec 7th, 2007 08:11 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Lo and behold, I've used an SM57 for two gigs now and it worked perfectly. I was able to find the 'volume zones' pretty quickly. Vocals are a lotta fun, I just gotta wean myself off lyric sheets now.

Charlie Macon
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Texas

Yeeeehaaaa!
Apr 21st, 2009 08:21 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Update: after Saturday's gig I gotta get me an SM-58 too. I loved the way the SM-58 allowed me to move around a bit more, and allowed me to share the mike.

Charlie Macon
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Texas

Yeeeehaaaa!
Apr 21st, 2009 06:26 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

A brand spankin' new SM-58 from Ray Hennig's Heart of Texas has just arrived at the house.

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