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6V6man
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Ypsi-Ann, Mich'gan

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Sep 5th, 2007 10:23 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The thing I don't like about the 57 windscreen is the way it seems to attract cat fur! I have to clean them off every once in a while, with a piece of duct tape, otherwise people get tickled by the fur. Or like my girlfriend, they're allergic to it! On the other hand, the fur from three different cats kind of gives it an interesting look... ;-)

(This message was last edited by 6V6man at 10:24 PM, Sep 5th, 2007)

Dr. Mark
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U.K. Midlands

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Sep 6th, 2007 07:14 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

SM57's have one major advantage over SM58's when it comes to vocals. They have a much narrower "cone" of signal pickup.

If you only have one singer, this is of no consequence, but if, like my band you have three mics across the front of the stage, it is a definate help in prventing spill over from the lead vocalists mike in the centre, into mine and the guitarists backing vocal mikes. It also helps in rejecting spill over from the drums, guitar amps and monitors.

On small stages, this effect is more apparent. We have noticed a definate decrease in feedback problems since my guitarist and myself (the lead singer still uses an SM58) swapped to SM57's.



Extra Crispy
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Oregon USA

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Sep 6th, 2007 01:46 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

6V6man, I've heard of singing cats, even saw one play the piano on youtube. But i've never heard of one using a mic before. That's a-mazing.
I'll just assume it uses a boom stand.


6V6man
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Ypsi-Ann, Mich'gan

27 watts O' Princetons!
Sep 6th, 2007 09:51 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Well... my name's Mike, and our cats use me all the time... as a kitty bed. Come to think of it, that must be why I'm always covered in cat fur too...

M5

Germany

Sep 11th, 2007 04:40 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Been using the SM 58 since it's introduction in the 70's....

Still, if they give me an SM 57, it's just fine by me. Makes no big difference, if you have been singing rock since 1958.....

Charlie Macon
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Texas

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Dec 7th, 2007 08:11 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Lo and behold, I've used an SM57 for two gigs now and it worked perfectly. I was able to find the 'volume zones' pretty quickly. Vocals are a lotta fun, I just gotta wean myself off lyric sheets now.

Charlie Macon
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Texas

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Apr 21st, 2009 08:21 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Update: after Saturday's gig I gotta get me an SM-58 too. I loved the way the SM-58 allowed me to move around a bit more, and allowed me to share the mike.

Charlie Macon
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Texas

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Apr 21st, 2009 06:26 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

A brand spankin' new SM-58 from Ray Hennig's Heart of Texas has just arrived at the house.

6G6
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Texas

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Apr 21st, 2009 06:38 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Hey Charlie, now you gotta try a 58 Beta.
Sometimes it seems like everything has "just one more step".

Charlie Macon
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Texas

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Apr 22nd, 2009 12:56 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Uh oh....what the heck is a 58 Beta? I'll Google it when I can muster the courage.

johnny1111
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White Bear Lake, MN

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Apr 27th, 2009 01:43 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The SM57 for miking instruments, and the SM58 for miking vocals. I like the regular SM58 better than the Beta version.

fendrguitplayr
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Greater Boston

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May 3rd, 2009 08:01 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I've used the 57 for vocals, but prefer using a 58 and I like it better than the beta series too.

Also have a Rode M1 that I would say matches the 58 for sound and maybe even a little better for durability.

berndog
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Canada

May 5th, 2009 08:12 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I have a Beta58 and a Beta57. I find the 58 Better for vocals. The 57 sounds flatter to me. I tried both but keep coming back to the 58 for its clarity and sound.

Gaukdawg

Ohio

I'm with you fellers!
Dec 30th, 2009 10:45 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I have a DVD of a Tom Petty concert and they are using 57s for the vocals for everyone. It sounded pretty good to me.

3putt
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Mid-Mo.

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Dec 30th, 2009 10:52 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I also like the vocal tone of a 57 but it's directional....my experience is that you need to stay directly in front in front of it to be effective.



DrKev

Irishman in Paris

Forget Tone - go with Note Choice
Jan 11th, 2010 05:06 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I like 57s for vocals but they are dangerous for somebody with poor mic technique or who moves off axis a lot.

Voice should still be treated as an instrument though. It needs it's own frequency space in the mix. EQ is very important and to some degree almost any half decent mic can work well if EQ'd right, particularly live. Just don't go for a sound that would be better suited to an FM radio talk show!

johnwilliamhunter

Australia

Jan 18th, 2010 08:59 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I use a 57 for vocals, as it's the only mic I have. Works fine for me, but as people have said, it is quite directional and dynamic, have to keep your mouth right in front of it and try not to change the distance, and will pick up breathing if you're not careful.

Fenderleadaholic

South of TN

Greg
Oct 12th, 2010 10:41 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

all I can say sometimes I use a 57 and other times a 58 all I can say is one word ..BETA ...that makes so much difference ....

mick decibel

White Salmon, WA

Play it in E#
Dec 29th, 2010 12:42 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Hey Crispy...how's it going?

I just got a SM58 for Christmas... (how'd Ms. Decibel know that's what I wanted?)

The mic sounds great, but it doesn't do much for making me sing on tune. Anything I can buy for that?

Florida Mike
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United States

I can only Sing my Heart
Apr 9th, 2012 08:31 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I have all three...I like the SM57 for micing cabs, OR for a drummers vocal mic if he knows how to use the proximity ---the drummer can be a bit off the mic---the SM58 is always great but the Beta 58 is smoking good for vocals live IMHO...

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