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Charlie Macon
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Aug 27th, 2007 07:10 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

That's cool, right? If I've interpreted correctly, the SM-57 is geared towards instruments whereas the SM-58 is geared for vocals? What would be the primary differences between the two mikes? Thanks for any shared knowledge.

I have two SM-57s, and have recorded using one of 'em for both instruments and voice, and liked the results, but had no other type of microphone to compare.



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Aug 27th, 2007 07:19 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

just from experience..the 57 has a flat sound to it the 58 gives you a rounder sound

58 is a great mic IMO

clark bjorke
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Aug 27th, 2007 07:24 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

It's that round ball on the end Joanna. :0)

The 57 has no windscreen and is, therefore, more susceptible to breath noise. The cartridge is the same as the 58, I believe. It works fine for vocals if the singer knows how to work a mic, or in conditions where it can be kept 4-5 inches away from the singer.

Chikpicker
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Aug 27th, 2007 07:29 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

yea,uhhuh keep talking,Clark;p

(This message was last edited by Chikpicker at 07:30 PM, Aug 27th, 2007)

Charlie Macon
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Aug 27th, 2007 07:41 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Thanks (wiping sweat from brow ;^). I recall Ray Hennig (local music store owner) said the SM-58 was like a -57 with a wind screen.

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Aug 27th, 2007 08:44 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I've used an SM57 for years with very good results. I highly recommend the foam windscreen that Shure makes for the 57. It fits onto the barrel and locks in place with a set screw. Since you already have a couple of 57s, I'd go ahead and start using one for vocals, with the windscreen.

Recently I added an SM58 to my collection and now that's my main mic. I still have my 57s for mic'ing my amp and for a second vocalist.

Extra Crispy
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Aug 28th, 2007 07:42 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Like 6V6, I've also used an SM57 for years, with out any issues. The windscreen makes all the difference.

About 10 bucks

(This message was last edited by Extra Crispy at 07:46 AM, Aug 28th, 2007)

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Aug 28th, 2007 11:07 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

How can a windscreen change the richness of tone?


treeman
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Aug 28th, 2007 11:40 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I have been using a 57 for vocals for quite a while and I'm happy with the results. A drummer turned me on to it. I didn't know about the windscreen. I'll have to get one.

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Aug 28th, 2007 01:44 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"How can a windscreen change the richness of tone?"

Special nano-fibers molded into the foam transform even the harshest-voiced singer into a velvet-throated crooner... just kiddin'! ;-)

It doesn't change the tone, it just reduces breathing noise so the 57 is usable as a vocal mic.

On a side note:
A few weeks ago I was running sound at an outdoor festival, and it was so windy I had to put the windscreens on the 57s I was using to mic amps with.

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Aug 28th, 2007 03:00 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I noticed that Steven Tyler of Aerosmith uses a 57 for his vocals.

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Aug 28th, 2007 03:46 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

That settles it then! 57s all around!

Hey Doug!

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Aug 28th, 2007 05:08 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I've used 58 and 57 with a windscreen...I still like 58 better...just sayin'

BBQ Gord

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Aug 28th, 2007 09:50 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I remember Shure's ads from "back in the day" pictured Roger Daltrey with a 57.

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Aug 28th, 2007 09:53 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"I still like 58 better...just sayin'"

Me too, now that I have a 58. Plus, I like the on/off switch.

melodymaker 145

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Sep 1st, 2007 09:26 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

A lot of it has to do with which mic you sound better on in your and other's opinions. In the studio they will not use just one mic for everyone. If you just feel more confident on one mic you probably sound better. Personally, I feel better singing through a 58. I played with a vocalist a long time ago that LOVED his Radio Shack mic. We could hardly ever talk him out of using it, and he actually did sound good through it. This is not just mental. Different mics have different EQ curves, so you will find one that enhances your strong points, and covers for some of your weak. I have a very midrangey voice, and the 2K spike on the 58 helps me not sound so muffled.

clark bjorke
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Sep 2nd, 2007 09:36 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

If I had my way everyone would use 57s or 58s. It makes the soundperson's job easier. Radio Shack, ugggh!




Edited for political correctness, BWAHAHAHAHAHA!

(This message was last edited by clark bjorke at 09:37 AM, Sep 2nd, 2007)

LeonB
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Sep 3rd, 2007 05:36 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"Everyone would use 57s or 58s."

My first mics were Shure 585s. When they were stolen I bought 545s, then 57s, because I thought they sounded better. IIRC 57s have a slightly wider freq. response.

I moved on to EV 10/16 types on a pro's suggestion and found I liked the diminished proximity effect.

My latest move has been into some AT condensers that I think sound really good.

I do some sound at a world famous venue, and the house bag of tricks includes 57s, 58s, Beta 58s, and ATM 41s.

You use what you got, and do the best you can with what you got. They all have their own little quirks, and everyones ears are a bit different.

Se la guerre!

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Sep 3rd, 2007 11:12 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"Se la guerre!"

Them's fighting words!

(almost)

Extra Crispy
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Sep 4th, 2007 09:25 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The reason I prefer the 57 w/windscreen, is that the foam screen protects me from grounding shock. (accidental or intentional) These days I think it's simply a mental security blanket... YMMV

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