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Trucking704
Contributing Member

USA

Jun 19th, 2007 09:52 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

How about Made In US squiers?

Any info on those?

leadowner

australia

Jun 21st, 2007 12:39 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I don't know but there is probably a good chance that the USA Squires are made from Alder or Ash or maybe Poplar.

Ausquier

Australia

Jun 21st, 2007 01:01 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I have some old Frontline mags from around that era. There are 2 Squier Strats listed. One in the Fender section and the other one in the Squier section. They only say Classic Stratocaster shape or the like. In the case of my MIK it is Ply (considered changing it for US standard, but I like the weight and sound so, meh;-). I have noted that every Fender where I have seen that description has been ply (laminate whatever). I assumed the US one would be the same also with a 12" radius neck iirc. I will have another look tonight. Might even scan the entries if your interested?

Trucking704
Contributing Member

USA

Jun 21st, 2007 09:37 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Please Ausquier scan the entries...it would be greatly appreciated. The internet rules!!!!!

Ausquier

Australia

Jun 21st, 2007 11:49 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I did have a read his morning. None of the Squier Strats were listed as more than "Classic Stratocaster shape" bodies. I have the Fall 92, 93 and 94 Frontlines. There are 2 Squier Standard Stratocaster models, one listed in the Squier section and one in the Fender section. The later I am assuming is either a MIM or MIA Squier and the former either MIJ or MIK. Both have different model numbers. By 1994 there is no longer a Squier section in the mag and the Squier Stratocaster is still listed in the Fender section, but no longer with a 12" radius neck, now it is 10".

I don't know what year the MIC and MII Squiers kicked off, but it would have to have been after 1994 I reckon. Anyway I will scan and post on my website when I get a chance.

BTW a lot of the Standard Fender models at this time are listed with Poplar or Basswood bodies. Including reissues like Jazzmasters and Mustangs. So again I have to assume that the "Classic Stratocaster shape" bodies are either out of any old parts bin or ply.

Sorry about the long post, it was alot of reading;-)



leadowner

australia

Jun 22nd, 2007 08:10 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

USA Squiers were made for less than a year before production of Squiers went back to Mexico and then from there back to Korea (and ultimately today from Korea, Indonesia, China and
India)
This was a period when MIJ Squiers had stopped and then they moved Squiers to Mexico but there was a fire in the Mexican factory which disrupted things for a few months in which Fender USA made the Squiers. The Squiers were made for a year in Mexico and then Squier production went back to Korea from where they came from.

Basically here's the production route of Squiers

1980's starts with Japan --> Korea/(India for a short time) --> Mexico --> USA --> Mexico --> Korea -->Indonesia/China/Korea --> Indonesia/China/Korea/India.

(This message was last edited by leadowner at 08:15 AM, Jun 22nd, 2007)

leadowner

australia

Jun 22nd, 2007 08:30 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

From what I've seen the Mexican Squiers were made from Poplar so the USA ones are probably made from Poplar as well.
The plywood Squiers are from Korea and other Asian makers but not from Japan.
The Japanese Squiers were Alder and Sen Ash at the start then mostly Basswood.
Then there are some Squiers made from Agathis made in some of the Asian countries.
Some of the Squiers from China are Alder.
Red Cedar is used for the Indian Squiers around now.

(This message was last edited by leadowner at 07:26 AM, Jun 23rd, 2007)

texasb5

Texas, USA

New Strat (& Tele) fan
Jun 22nd, 2007 07:57 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

(This message was last edited by texasb5 at 11:16 PM, Jun 22nd, 2007)

Ausquier

Australia

Jun 22nd, 2007 09:18 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Ok scanners dropped its lunch, but I have the mags in front of me, seems I have to learn to read;

Fall 1992

Fender Squier Series

Body; Classic Strat shape, 12" rad neck
033-7102 (maple neck)
033-7100 (rosewood neck)
033-7120 (left hand)

Squier Stratocaster

Body; Classic Strat shape, 12" rad neck
033-6002 (contemporary Strat, HB in bridge)
033-6102 (standard strat)

*Fall 1993 is the same as 1992

*Fall 1994

Fender Squier Series

Body; Poplar, 9.5" rad neck
013-3602 (maple neck)
013-3600 (rosewood neck)
013-3620 (left hand)

Squier

Body; Classic Strat shape, 10" rad neck
033-0600 (rosewood neck)
033-0602 (maple neck)

As an aside, I noted too that the current Affinity BSB Tele has only Alder listed for wood type on the Squier web site. Would that be true? Or are they just using a near enough kinda attitude? The original pickguard on mine had agathis/alder body printed on the Squier sticker. I figured the pickguards were just grabbed from anywhere.

medic24

USA

Jul 2nd, 2007 07:58 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

When was a serial number that starts with CAE 004 made?

leadowner

australia

Jul 16th, 2007 04:04 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The CA of CAE stands for China Axl and 004 probably means 2004.

http://goliath.ecnext.com/coms2/gi_0199-3591885/Fender-teams-with-AXL-to.html

http://www.siliconvalley.ch/wiki/doku.php?id=axl_musical_instruments

medic24

USA

Jul 19th, 2007 12:48 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Thank you! That's kind of what I thought, but felt it best to defer to the experts. Thanks again for your help!

Dave

toots436

Australia

three cheers for Leo !
Jul 30th, 2007 03:37 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I Have a MIJ Silver Series Tele bought around 1996, stripped and being refinished, trying to identify the timber.

Serial: NO15445

The body is 3 piece (one only 2" thick), very slight pink tint and subtle grain over 90%, but a few sparse very dark grain streaks.

Was an insipid white, soon to be Lake Placid Blue!

TIA

(This message was last edited by toots436 at 03:39 AM, Jul 30th, 2007)

leadowner

australia

Jul 30th, 2007 05:12 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

(MIJ) N + 6 DIGITS
1993-1994


3 chord

MT/USA

I don't have anything clever to say
Jul 30th, 2007 06:13 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I think it is important to note that the first MIK Squiers appear to be very close to the late MIJ Squire specs. These typically have an E serial # follwed by 6 or seven digits.

These MIK guitars are not plywood and appear to be made with left over MIJ parts except for perhaps the neck.

Squier II's from Korea I think came after the brief period of the E serial # guitars that I am referring to.

Just my obsevations, I am not sure though.

Rand-O-Monium

Jax,FL USA

"Scalloped & Stickered"
Jul 31st, 2007 05:11 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

^
Thanx for confirming my suspicions!!!

texasmr2

USA

Aug 3rd, 2007 07:03 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

This is the info I recieved from Fender on my MIK Squier II, atleast it say's "hardwood" body and not plywood LOL!

SN# S939173
Model Name: Squier II Standard Stratocaster
Model Number: 029-2000-(Color #)
Body: Hardwood
Neck: Maple
Fingerboard: Rosewood 12" Radius (304.8mm)
No. of Frets: 21
Scale Length: 25.5 (648 mm)
Width at Nut: 1.625 (41 mm)
Hardware: Chrome
Machine Heads: Vintage Style
Bridge: Vintage Style
Pickguard: 3-Ply White
Pickups: 3 Single Coils
Pickup Switching: 5 position Switch
Controls: Master Volume, Tone, Tone
Colors: (506) Black, (555) , (558)
Strings:
UNIQUE FEATURES:
ACCESSORIES:
Source: KOREA
MSRP: $229.99
Specs:

Gregg

My MIK Squier II

andtrea

italy

Jun 13th, 2008 06:30 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I own a Chinese Squier Strat of 1996. The serial number begins with YN6 so according to the post above comes from begins with Yako.
I really love this guitar (was my first electric one), especially the neck that I found very comfortable and quick.

Can someone please tell me the right specs of neck, radius and frets of that model?

Now I'm thinking about buying a "real" USA Stratocaster and I want to address my search towards a sam or very very similar neck shape Strat.
Thanks in advance

sniffin

Italy

Jun 13th, 2008 05:01 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I've received my squier bullet strat(2007 sunburst model with 11 pickguard screws) it says crafted in china and has a COB serial number. I went to another guitar shop yesterday and I had the chance to check both versions of the Bullet strat (11 pickguard screws vs 8 pickguard screws) and the 11 screw version also had the same type COB serial number whereas the 8 screw version had the classic CY serial number.

Does anyone know how to decode COB?

Ausquier

Australia

Jun 16th, 2008 09:10 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Downside of the Squier II is that the hardware wasn't as good as the Squier S9 iirc. The S9 ply bodies sound amazing too.

What year was your Squier II, Texasmr2?

My S9 is a 1990 Squier Stratocaster S975189. Bought December 1990. I contacted Fender and was told they had no info prior to 1994. Where/when did you get your info?

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