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jag man

uk

Jan 17th, 2007 04:08 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Hi Mark Kendrick - Fender many thanks there were a few I did not know larry brooks,Richard Siarto
Yasuhiko Iwanade ,Alan hamel,where are these guys now. chris

telefreak
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GAS almost satisfied?
Jan 17th, 2007 04:51 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Hi Mark

Thanks for posting

Glad to have met you even tho it was only for a few minutes



John Page
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USA

p-one-c.com
Jan 17th, 2007 05:05 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I don't see mention of John Suhr or Michael Ponce. Let's see, whose doing what;
Mike Stevens, John Suhr, Gene Baker, Fred Stuart, Alan Hamel, and myself, all have our own guitar "companies" now.

J.W. Black continues to do repairs for a very limited clientelle.

Michael Ponce works for John Suhr.

Last I heard about Larry Brooks he was working for Seymour Duncan.

Richard Syarto... well, he's way out there somewhere.

Art Esparza has been on disability with major knee surgery and has been just giggin' with his sax.

Yasuhiko Iwanade is the head of Internationl Sales for Gibson in Japan.

And I think John English is just taking some time off for awhile. Sometimes we all have to do that to re-group before we start another chapter... like all of who left did.

I think I can speak for all of us in the above list, and say that our years at Fender were a wonderful chapter in our lives, but there is life after Fender. Being Fender Custom Shop Master Builders is what we did... not who we were, or are. That gets lost sometimes.

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The Aluminum King

Jan 17th, 2007 05:07 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

MikeEC What do you mean: John English "was" a Master Builder.

Fengato

Australia

Monogamy- one Strat at a time?
Jan 17th, 2007 05:27 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"Yasuhiko Iwanade is the head of Internationl Sales for Gibson in Japan." John Page

Ah, now we know why the Galaxy of Strats hasn't been in print since '98. John, would you care to share any insights or memories of Yasuhiko Iwanade? I'll wager that Japanese collectors were keen to get their hands on his Master Built guitars.

Edit:

Incidentally, I converted my old tape of Curves Contours and Body Horns to a digital format. So it looks like the interview that you did back in '94 will live on forever. ;-)

It's lovely to have you around, John.


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(This message was last edited by Fengato at 07:07 PM, Jan 17th, 2007)

Gleo

Malayasia

Jan 17th, 2007 06:48 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Yas made some guitars under a brand name which I forget for a little while.

Is Hector Montes still with Fender? I guess he wasn't a master builder but why did he get to put his name on necks? How senior of a builder to you have to be in order to be able to put our name on a guitar?

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Alii Prae Me
Jan 17th, 2007 09:17 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Hey Mark! Been missing you around here! Keep up the great guitars.

Pumpaction

Germany & USA

Jan 18th, 2007 02:02 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I've seen a few guitars pop up on eBay made by a builder named Kenny Gin.


jag man

uk

Jan 18th, 2007 06:54 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Hi John thanks for the info on who`s doing what .is Tom Mc cormick still around ,he worked with Fender in the early days and set up music man in the 70`s with Leo jagman

(This message was last edited by jag man at 07:06 AM, Jan 18th, 2007)

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Mpls, Minnesoooota

Curious Critter
Jan 18th, 2007 11:57 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"MikeEC What do you mean: John English "was" a Master Builder."


Read the "tick tock" thread for discussion (or lack thereof) about John English.

Tick,tock...

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Mpls, Minnesoooota

Curious Critter
Jan 18th, 2007 11:58 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Then check the OUR PEOPLE at the Custom Shop website.

John English is not listed.

Our People

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Mpls, Minnesoooota

Curious Critter
Jan 18th, 2007 12:01 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

John Page ~

Thanks for your comments... we appreciate them.

ALORENGER
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chico23
Jan 18th, 2007 04:42 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Yes...Kenny Gin was a Masterbuilder for Fender and left the company and went to Suhr Guitars back in around 97 or 98. I have the orange Masterbuilt Strat thats been around ,that was owned by the lead guitarist of Sponge ...94/96 era
Thanx alorenger@aol.com

John Page
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USA

p-one-c.com
Jan 18th, 2007 05:42 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I don't believe that Kenny went all the way up to "Master Builder" before he left Fender to go to work for John. He was at the "Builder" level, which was not quite at the Master Builder level. It was the last stage of the apprentics level prior to getting the promotion to MB. Ususally someone would be at the builder stage for several years before that final step. At that stage they usually had all the chops, but were still working on the experience end. They would work closely with the MBs to dial in those final details.

Abbys Kid

Southern California

Yes I am Abby's Kid!
Jan 19th, 2007 10:09 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Wasn't Drew Whitefeather a MB?

jfp
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Upstate, NY

Whatever
Jan 19th, 2007 07:30 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

How about Jason Davis?

John Page
Contributing Member

USA

p-one-c.com
Jan 19th, 2007 09:33 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Drew was a "Master Artisan" as was George Amicay. They were masters at their crafts, but not master builders. Drew was a leather worker and George was a woodcarver.

When I left in late '98 Jason Davis was still a "Builder" not "Master Builder", but he may have gotten promoted after I left. Can't comment on him for sure.

OneOcean

Mystic, CT

Jan 20th, 2013 06:36 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I have a November 1997 Kenny M Gin Master Built Strat, unless it has been misrepresented. The serial number is KMG 026 which is engraved on the Custom Shop neck bolt plate. I was told that this was how they identified his guitars since he had just attained Master Builder status and they did not yet have decals with his name to apply to his guitars. He hand signed and dated the body in the neck cutout "Kenny Gin 11-97". The neck is hand signed & dated "Kenny Gin Oct-97" Furthermore, the neck cavity has "KMG" carved into it beneath the black shielding paint. The highly figured birds eye neck with V-shape profile is the best I've ever played. The ash body has a funk grain that can be seen through he white blond lacquer finish. Based on the quality of woods, workmanship, signatures, COA, case & case candy, it sure appears to be a Kenny Gin Master Built Strat. I recently saw another one of his master built guitars online identified on the neck plate as "KMG 018" with a date of October 1997 on the COA. So it appears that Kenny Gin was a Master Builder at the Fender Custom Shop from mid-late 1997 until he left to go build guitars with John Suhr.

OneOcean

Mystic, CT

Jan 20th, 2013 06:53 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Correction: The body cavity has "KMG" carved into it beneath the black shielding paint (under the neck P/U).

Photos available, can pics be linked here?

mossyoaks

usa

May 13th, 2013 12:03 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Kenny was indeed elevated to MB and I have one of his final guitars built before heading off to Suhr Guitars where he still builds. KMG 033. I ordered mine in late 1997. Fat Purple Sparkle Strat w/matching headstock, highly figured birdseye maple neck with brazilian rosewood board. Kenny Gin signature custom shop decal on back of head. He also made my buddy one, as well. KMG 032. Fantastic instruments! Highest quality and easiest playing Strat I've encountered. I can't say enough about MY CS Strat! Thanks Kenny!

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