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Electron
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Heart of Darkness

There's a light, that never shone on me.
Oct 27th, 2006 06:22 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The JV is brighter/clearer, but there's more difference between them than just the pickups. My JV has a Warmoth ash body, maple neck, trem bridge, and I play it through a Blues Jr at a friend's place. The RC has an alder body, rosewood neck, hardtail bridge, and I play it through a Princeton Reverb at home.

I can't comment on the pickups alone, there's more in play here.

mortar
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Tulsa, Ok.

Oct 27th, 2006 06:45 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Ok, thanks!!

They do test very close to the TxSpl specs on the Fender page. In fact SMark over in the Pup forum says that they got confirmation from Fender that the Cray Pups are TxSpls.
On mine the bridge pup has flush poles

Electron
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Heart of Darkness

There's a light, that never shone on me.
Oct 27th, 2006 07:04 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The neck and mid pickups may well be TxSpecs, the bridge can't be, of course. Whatever they are, they sound REALLY good.

I''m nuts about this guitar. ;-)

geocaster
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Hendersonville, TN

If It Don't Fit....Don't Force It
Oct 27th, 2006 12:24 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The inductance (Henries) would have to be
measured as well as resistance (Ohms) to
get a decent comparison.

Here are the average measurements For Texas
Specials from Angela.com. They do their own
measurements to confirm Fender specs.

>>OEM on the Stevie Ray Vaughan, American Texas
Special, and many Custom Shop Stratocasters.
Sold as a set of three or each. Bridge pickup DC
resistance 7.6K, inductance 3.58 henries. Middle
pickup 6.5K, inductance 2.6 henries. Neck pickup
6.2K, inductance 2.4 henries.

(This message was last edited by geocaster at 12:30 PM, Oct 27th, 2006)

mortar
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Tulsa, Ok.

Oct 27th, 2006 05:22 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Ok thanks!!!

DD Bluz

Tucson, Arizona USA

tone is (almost) everything
Oct 29th, 2006 07:19 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

RC says that the pickups are hotter as you move from neck to bridge. Mine is that way....

guitargeezer
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Hotlanta/Jawja

Dawg Fan
Nov 1st, 2006 12:12 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I dropped by Guitar Center today to have some repairs done on another guitar, but had a chance to play the new Classic Player 60s Strat--the one with the 12" radius neck. I was anxious to see how it would compare to my new Cray.

It was nice, but not even close to the RC. It sounded OK...like a Strat, but not as full as my Cray. And, while I'm generally a fan of the flatter radius neck, the profile of the RC is just simply the best Strat neck I've ever played. Period!

I'm so glad that I listened to Electron and you other RC owners.

lairee

USA

Nov 11th, 2006 08:24 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I'm in the market for a Cray strat, and I've seen several on eBay with chrome hardware. I never thought I'd get to a point where cosmetics matter, but the newest models seem to have gold hardware which is not my cup of tea.

Does anyone know when they switched to gold? Any advice on looking for a used model -- any other equipment changes to be wary of, any recommended stores, etc.? Any reason to save up and go with the American hardtail instead (the hardtail is what I'm really after)?

Thanks mucho,

Larry

jaguar82

Europe

Nov 11th, 2006 08:44 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

So they're putting gold hw on MIM Crays now too? The Fender website still shows the Mexican version (Robert Cray Standard Stratocaster) with only chrome hw, and the Robert Cray Signature Stratocaster (Custom Artist) with gold hw.

I have to say, I think it's a shame they stopped making it in sunburst. Anyone know how long that's been?

(This message was last edited by jaguar82 at 08:46 AM, Nov 11th, 2006)

Electron
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Heart of Darkness

There's a light, that never shone on me.
Nov 11th, 2006 08:48 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The custom shop version has gold hardware, the MIM one I got a couple months ago has chrome.

I had a great USA hardail, but sold it right after receiving the Cray. The big difference is the Cray has vintage style hardware, and is pretty much a '61 reissue with 9.5"R and medium jumbo frets.

Electron
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Heart of Darkness

There's a light, that never shone on me.
Nov 11th, 2006 08:52 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I just got one recenly in sunburst, so that change must be very new.

mortar
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Tulsa, Ok.

Nov 11th, 2006 08:57 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Some places are listing the burst finish as still available.

geocaster
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Hendersonville, TN

If It Don't Fit....Don't Force It
Nov 11th, 2006 09:13 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Musicians Friend still has Sunburst in stock.

guitargeezer
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Hotlanta/Jawja

Dawg Fan
Nov 11th, 2006 09:57 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Electron's right. The MIM Cray is still chrome. It's only the Custom Shop Cray that has gold hardware. And they most assuredly have not stopped making the sunburst model. I, too, have an '06 sunburst. Some places don't carry the sunburst (I don't know why...but I'm partial to sunburst anyway), but it's very much still in production.


Edited to add: If you're interested in a sunburst, GuitarTrader (one of our sponsors) has the best price I've found. They're temporarily out of the stock, but I only paid $579 w/free shipping...not the $634 I found for the sunburst on most sites.

(This message was last edited by guitargeezer at 10:01 AM, Nov 11th, 2006)

bubbanutha
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there ain't no guru,

can see through your eyes.
Nov 11th, 2006 10:24 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

lairee,

A year or so ago I found a nearly new Tom Delonge Signature Strat in a pawn shop for $250 and swapped out the single bucker/single knob pick guard for a loaded American Texas Special white pg (from the net) to end up with a nice hard tail strat for under $400. It is a Daphne (or Sonic) blue/rosewood neck/big head/vintage tuners lookalike of my first ('67 Duo Sonic) guitar.

There's more than one way to...

Terry

(This message was last edited by bubbanutha at 10:27 AM, Nov 11th, 2006)

Electron
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Heart of Darkness

There's a light, that never shone on me.
Nov 11th, 2006 12:39 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The sunburst option is no longer shown on Fender's site, so the ones now in stock at the dealers may be the end of the line.

If I recall correctly, suburst wasn't an option when the RC was introduced, but added later.

Fender

DD Bluz

Tucson, Arizona USA

tone is (almost) everything
Nov 11th, 2006 01:32 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Guitargeezer....I bought a sonic blue classic 60 with the Abigail pups and it is a great guitar. Those pups rule. They are not made anymore since she retired, or so I am told. It is currently being made into a relic by a master luthier who relics like Cruz does.

Both guitars are great at what they do. PS-glad mine is sunburst.

(This message was last edited by DD Bluz at 06:02 PM, Nov 12th, 2006)

guitargeezer
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Hotlanta/Jawja

Dawg Fan
Nov 11th, 2006 08:41 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Not to quibble here, Electron (especially since you helped fuel my interest in the Cray), but I must be reading a different set of specs. Here's what the Specifications on the Fender site say regarding the Cray Strat (from your link)...
(300)* 3 Color Sunburst, *add $50.00,
(324) Inca Silver,
(326) Violet,
(Polyester Finish)

That's as of Saturday, 10:45 p.m. EST. Did I miss something?

(This message was last edited by guitargeezer at 08:43 PM, Nov 11th, 2006)

lairee

USA

Nov 11th, 2006 10:58 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Thanks everyone for your comments -- after more, uh, careful research I was clearly hasty in assuming that the MIM Cray Strat had gold hardware.

bubbanutha: Did you have to route the body to install the other pickups, or was it already set up for more pickups? If it was already set up, what type of pickups is it set up for (HSS or HH)? Any lessons learned from your project?


SMark
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Atlanta, GA USA

"Life is good when you love your tone."
Nov 11th, 2006 11:29 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"I bought a sonic blue classic 60 with the Abigail pups and it is a great guitar. Those pups rule. They are not made anymore sonce she retired, or so I am told."


ABBY RETIRED???!!!

I would certainly hope NOT!

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