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DD Bluz

Tucson, Arizona USA

tone is (almost) everything
Jun 18th, 2006 11:27 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Nothing on the FDP I could find as a thread for these guitars. Just picked one up, sunburst and in fine shape (was "used"). GAS was really bad that day.

Light, way less than 7 pounds. Neck is just like a early 60's slab with awesome rosewood and larger frets than standard. Custom shop vintage pickups, the sound is awesome; kinda like a Tele but in Strat tone territory due to the hardtail configuration. Fit and finish as good as anything I have seen from Fender USA. A real tone monster, especially through tube amps.

What's your opinion?

abner
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Southern New Hamster

"Just one more song baby...."
Jun 18th, 2006 12:39 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I have a 2005 MIM Cray in Inca Silver, and I used a 3-color burst 2005 MIM Cray body for a recently completed project. Both bodies are very light.

I love my Inca Silver. The pups are the best part of this guitar, IMHO. Sounds great through my Mesa Boogie. And I agree that the fit and finish is superb. Great guitar for the money.

PappaRay
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B.C. Canada

Do your best, fake the rest
Jun 19th, 2006 08:04 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

2003 Violet. I agree with everything, DD Bluz plus the best pickups in a regualr production Fender up until the EJ. This and the Jimmy Vaughan are the 2 greatest sleepers Fender has put out.

customguitars

USA

Jun 19th, 2006 12:09 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

agreed, I had a few sunburst and they were all great guitars (except for on that should never have left the factory due to horrendous flaws). The Powerhouse series are also a well kept secret, anyone looking for an EC Strat should look there first.

pombrio
Contributing Member

Upstate NY

Jun 19th, 2006 12:24 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Happy Cray owner here too. First year production Inca Silver. Upgraded the bridge and tuners to US vintage. Love the pups, especially for clean tones in the 2 & 4 position. Quack.

Go figure huh Mr. Cray?

Nonvintage
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San Diego , Ca.

Clam King
Jun 21st, 2006 05:59 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Love mine too, after I adjusted the pickups. Got a violet one cheap, had it painted Fiesta Red sounds great with a BFSR.

GarysBlues

New Haven CT.

Everyday I Get the Blues
Jun 22nd, 2006 06:25 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I LOVE the NECK. I like it better than my SRV! Best FENDER NECK I EVER PLAYED!

Cray-Inca/Chrome

GarysBlues

New Haven CT.

Everyday I Get the Blues
Jun 22nd, 2006 06:31 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I nade a FEW changes beside the CHROME! The saddles and tuning machines ought to be swapped for Orig. Fender Replacment. The other swap was a Bone-Nut. Guitars are pretty awesome for the bucks! I have big hands so I'm blown away by the neck. VERY VERY similiar to my SRV exept the SRV has DUNLOP frets and the Cray has Fender M-J. The Fenders are not as tall therefor play faster, I like them better! Don't get me wrong I'm a BIG NECK freak! The SRV is also VERY NICE!

rfrakes331K

USA

RonHalen Jokingly He Says
Jul 15th, 2006 04:09 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

What are the DC Resistances on the Custom Shop Robert Cray Vintage PUPs?



etvetv

United states

Jul 15th, 2006 04:24 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Are they alnicos? I played one the other day and the tone was not very beight compared to other Strats I tried, but the strings seemed a bit dead.

Steck
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Music City, USA

Mojo is in the mind of the beholder.
Jul 15th, 2006 08:57 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I've a 2004 violet MIM.. Love it. The fretboard seems like a shallower radius than my Hwy 1, but it's all in what you get used to.

Tweaks so far include copper foil shielding, swapping a Duncan Little 59 into the neck pickup for a thicker sound, modifying the tone pots so that one is a 'master tone' regardless of switch position, and the other a 'coil tap' on the little 59 so I could get a good single-coil sound out of the same setup. Using a pot as a coil tap is interesting because you can dial in as much 'humbucker' warmth as you want.

About the only thing left on my wish list is to upgrade the tuners. My Hwy 1 seems more stable tuning-wise than the MIM cray.

There's some older threads on the Cray pickups, and IIRC the consensus was that they were not some super-special custom pickup but rather Texas specials or some such. I just look at it as, "sounds good to me", or "hmmm, wonder if this other thing might sound better".

[edit to add a word I left out... duh.]

(This message was last edited by Steck at 08:58 PM, Jul 15th, 2006)

Steck
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Music City, USA

Mojo is in the mind of the beholder.
Jul 16th, 2006 02:39 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

According to the fender site, which has a long list of spec info for these, the MIM is

‘61 “C” Shape Neck,
9.5” Fingerboard Radius

The USA custom artist is

“C” Shape Neck,
12” Fingerboard Radius


The Highway one specs on their site say:

Maple, Modern “C” Shape
Fingerboard Rosewood (p/n 011-1100) or Maple (p/n 011-1102), 9.5” Radius (241mm)

Dunno, but I think my cray has a flatter neck than the highway one. Maybe they've changed the specs?

MIM Cray info - click on specs

Steck
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Music City, USA

Mojo is in the mind of the beholder.
Jul 16th, 2006 02:44 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

By the way, apropos of my earlier comments about the pickups, here's a link to a thread within the 2002 FDP archives about the Cray, various specs, and the pickups. Note the FMIC person that identified what they were using at that time...

http://www.fenderforum.com/forum.html?db=2002&topic_number=141863

GarysBlues

New Haven CT.

Everyday I Get the Blues
Jul 17th, 2006 08:06 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

There was a lot of confusion over the MIM Cray pups. Especially when Techs started pulling them apart. But they are a lower output Vintage sounding Strat single-coil that are CS pups. Not used anywhere else EXCEPT the RC-MIM, Another issue were the actual pups RC was using. Many articles from Fenders Players Lounge to Guitar Player claim that Robert Cray use's Texas Special pups in all his Strats exept 1 I believe. That one is his first Vintage Strat with the original Strat pups in it. The US Custop-Shop RC-Signature use's 57-62 CS Fender pups I believe. And last but not least there's the special wound CS MIM pups. Very nice sounding Strat pups! But yes, the RC-MIM has a lot of bang for the buck. IMHO probly one of the nicest FENDER necks I EVER played! I wish I had another.

abner
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Southern New Hamster

"Just one more song baby...."
Jul 17th, 2006 09:12 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I picked up a new unplayed (tags and pg plastic still on it) 2005 MIM on e-bay a couple of months ago. Couldn't resist - no one was bidding on it. I got it for a song (no pun intended) with the notion that I could probably flip it and make a few bucks if I didn't like it. Yeah, well, it's stayin'. And I have to say that the main reason is the special-wound CS pups. The second I plugged it in I was like "Hmmmmm...Very niiiice..." They're so clean and rich, and they have incredible tone - comparable to my CS 66RI.

I like it for more than the pups though. The neck was a little hard to get used to at first, but it's grown on me, and the fit and finish is outstanding. Absolutely great bang for the buck, and arguably one of the better Strat values available.

fndr_lvr

Indonesia

Oct 15th, 2006 12:09 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Hi everyone... I'm just wondering, what kind of rosewood are used for this RC strat fingerboard? is it african or indian, or a cheaper one? and is the 61 profile on RC strat bigger/chunkier than neck on 62 RI? I'm talking about the newer production, not the old one.

I'm just wondering about the fretboard because I saw a very ugly one on ebay. look at the rosewood grain on the link.. it's very ugly..

ebay link

Fengato

Australia

Monogamy- one Strat at a time…
Oct 15th, 2006 12:47 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Good lookin' rosewood is of course in the eye of the beholder. I'll admit that it does look washed out in some pics, though if you look at pic 3, the board looks rich and quite attractive (if you like figuring.) It's difficult to make a call on the species of Rosewood, as the colour and grain pattern can vary considerably from tree to tree.

Electron
Contributing Member

Heart of Darkness

There's a light, that never shone on me.
Oct 15th, 2006 06:20 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I recently got a sunburst RC, and couldn't be happier with it. It's got that retro look to the bone, plays fantastic, and the tones are smoooooth.

What's not to love?

fndr_lvr

Indonesia

Oct 15th, 2006 11:00 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

yes electron, I have seen the pics of your rc strat.. it's sweet... every pics of RC strat that I saw has that dark looking rosewood fingerboard. this made me wonder about the RC neck sold on ebay. I am really interested in buying the neck. how is that 61 profile neck feels electron?

Electron
Contributing Member

Heart of Darkness

There's a light, that never shone on me.
Oct 15th, 2006 12:42 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The neck feels a little bigger than my AmStd was, and much smaller than my rosewood tele was. It fits my hand like a glove, but note that I'm 6'5".

The finish is gloss, which reminds me of the 70s strats I grew up with. I thought going back to that might be a problem after playing satin finished necks for so long, but it turned out to be a non-issue.

The RC rosewood is a deep & dark, and the tint on the maple is just right. FenderMexico has got it going on, in my book. :-)

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