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fendrguitplayr
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Sep 19th, 2007 05:21 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I just took a BBE 482i in as a trade towards a project guitar that I built.

I really didn't want a rack unit, but these DO sound really good :)

stinger22

USA

Oct 28th, 2008 10:16 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

AS they say it's like taking a blanket off our amp. It's not an effect you want to "hear", but what it does for your tone is noticeable, noticeably good that is. Keep mine on all the time usually back sitting next to my amp so it's out of the way.

MIAFender

usa

Oct 29th, 2008 05:59 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Best 99.00 i ever spent, never turn it off, just got a hi end amp and didnt think i would need it, wrong, I will always own 1

HolySloth
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Oct 30th, 2008 10:34 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Here is what another forum posted about the Sonic Maximizer. Taken tongue in cheeck, but still...Is there truth?

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Just a word of warning. Maximizers are the guitar gear equivalent of crack. The experience one goes through is identical:
1. The first hit: You hook it up and initially think "Oh MY GOD this the greatest thing EVER DOOOOOD!!!!!111!!!!1! I've found THE tone!"

2. You start using on a regular basis: Buy some model BBE, hook to rig, engage it 100% of the time. Rewrite all your patches.

3. You try to get your friends hooked: Dude, check out my rig, this thing takes it over the top!!!.

4. You go into addiction/denial: Friends think your tone has gone to crap but you think it is totally awesome. You start talking msinformed BS about different sound frequencies traveling at different velocities (hint: violation of Newtonian physics).

5. There is an intervention: Friend let's you A/B his non-maximizer rig versus yours in live setting, Yours sounds like over-processed dung, his rocks. He tells you, as a Bro, the BBE must go. You realize the BBE is a band aid for guitar tone and not even a good one at that.

6. You go into rehab: Another "like new" BBE xx2 unit hits eBay.

7. Regret: I wasted a load of time futzing with my rig, patches, etc, and my tone isn't any better and I'm back to square one. I Wonder what GE-7 pedals are going for these days.

Maybe you should avoid the whole thing. If you must post-process your modelling tone I would strongly suggest an EQ. It's much more versatile and will be long usable after the BBE is gone.

Yes, I'm a former user and I regret ever bothering with it.

(This message was last edited by HolySloth at 10:36 AM, Oct 30th, 2008)

SMark
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Atlanta, GA USA

"Life is good when you love your tone."
Oct 30th, 2008 06:03 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Wow, this thing sounds like fun.

Can't wait to get mine!

Steve Dallman
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USA

Nov 3rd, 2008 08:53 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

RivEraEra...except, the BBE (and Aphex) processes are analog...not digital. There are no digital converters in them.

SMark
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Atlanta, GA USA

"Life is good when you love your tone."
Nov 3rd, 2008 09:42 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Well... I can certainly see how you can get too much of a good thing with this box. But in the correct dose, it seems to deliver the goods. I haven't tried it with all my amps yet, but it appears each one will have it's own unique setting.

Definitely needs to be dialed-in, and I can certainly see reasons to not want to use it.

bluesking55
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Mechanicsville Va

Nov 6th, 2008 08:35 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I dont care how it operates, how it works, just know its the best 99.00 i ever spent, Tried on DR Z's fenders, peaveys vox etc and I never turn it off
Even if I take my Vox SS pathfinder to church, I also take this and a o/d pedal.

SMark
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Atlanta, GA USA

"Life is good when you love your tone."
Nov 6th, 2008 09:26 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I will say this for it... If you have an amp with a clean channel that just isn't quite cutting it for you, the Sonic Maximizer might just get you there. I'm pretty impressed with this box. I sold my GE-7 a couple years ago for lack of use. This one should last longer...

Steve Dallman
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USA

Nov 10th, 2008 08:56 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

BBE's use in guitar and bass rigs might be limited compared to use in PA's or in recording.

A guitar speaker is a midrange device. Adding too much high end above the 4-6K spectrum can make tone a bit strident. It might work with clean but might be too fizzy for distortion.

In a mix with guitar in that mix, it might be perfect.

I used a BBE in my bass rig, but stopped. It sounded glorious with clean tones, but was too strident with agressive or slapping tones. If I didn't use tweeters it might have been OK, but I didn't care for the low end with slapping either.

But I do use one in the PA and love it.

I don't buy the phase bla, bla info.

fendrguitplayr
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Nov 17th, 2008 08:31 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

You can get it as a DirectX plug-in now too...

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Rumblemeister
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Kirkland, WA

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Dec 18th, 2008 08:44 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Sounds like something I'd like to try. Where does it go in the signal chain?

Fritz_D_Cat
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Oct 13th, 2011 12:37 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Alas my Sonic Stomp gave up at the 2nd Oregon jam. I'll have to take a look and see if it's fixable. I do love the thing, especially for a country rig.

Fritz_D_Cat
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Oct 13th, 2011 06:58 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

and now I have to take it back. User error - didn't have the battery tab properly engaged. duh

stinger22

USA

Nov 20th, 2011 07:02 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

8track
"How is a piece of circuitry going to know what phase anomolies and resonant peaks YOUR particular speaker may have and therefore accurately compensate for it???"

You have a low end adjustment and a high end adjustment to dial it in for your particular amp.

Fritz_D_Cat
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Nov 20th, 2011 08:38 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"How is a piece of circuitry going to know what phase anomalies and resonant peaks YOUR particular speaker may have and therefore accurately compensate for it???"

Do not doubt. That can be solved for in minutes on a piece of paper (even easier in Excel).

For a given cap size, a frequency elicits a reactance (resistance) and corresponding phase lag. Lower the freq, the more resistance. DC is stopped utterly.

Given that most amps use similar "order of magnitude" RC circuits, and there is a theoretical average speaker, one can successfully assume the lag vs. frequency and then plan to compensate with another piece of equipment. It's not rocket science. It is engineering.

Then, to verify, some intern geek runs around with an o-scope comparing results of many amps and configurations vs. source material. He gives the results to the prof who gets a patent, and he gets his graduate degree.

Prof suckers another grad student into writing the correction algorithm. Patent/degree cycle repeats.

Prof works out bulk patent licensing deal with university and starts consumer audio electronics company.

The way of the world.

for those that need the math review, here it is :)

RainboGuy

USA/Wisconsin

Ike Turner is my guitar hero!
Dec 20th, 2011 08:10 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I just bought one........and in my opinion.....this pedal is AMAZING!

Clarity, definiton and third-order harmonics come to life with this pedal on......

Can't believe it took me this long to get one and use it........

Wow I love this!!!

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