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RonHalen Jokingly He Says
Dec 24th, 2010 03:08 PM   Edit   Profile  

Merry Christmas to you and all of you also!

I wanted my wife to buy me a CS Rory Galagher Strat because I survived a strok e last year. She won't get it though.



Dec 25th, 2010 11:58 AM   Edit   Profile  

Sorry to hear that, frakes. Hope you can make it happen one day; I hear they're a topshelf instrument. I know a fellow with a Rory and it's quickly become his #1.

John Page
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Jan 4th, 2011 11:54 AM   Edit   Profile  

Okay... I'm in and out of the paint booth all day today, so I'll try to answer some of these old questions. Sorry it took so long for me to get to them.

millenofx77 - I left Fender in November of 1998, so I don't know if they continued on with the NOS product or not. We never produced "a lot" of anything in those days, but I don't remember exact quantities. They were developed to address the players that liked the changed in tonality that the Relic finish material produced without the aging. I agree that the decal does not seem properly placed... too far towards the ball of the peghead. You've got a "special" one! I don't remember if we had Abby wind all of the pickups in that series or not. I will tell you this though, if I said she did, then she did. I never lied for the sake of selling a product. I didn't believe in that, and there was no need to.

I hope that helps a little bit Arnaud. Again my apologies in taking so long to address your question.

John Page
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Jan 4th, 2011 12:00 PM   Edit   Profile  

Too many years have passed for me to remember why we did the '69s, or whose idea it was, etc. What I can tell you is this, we made product decisions based on the feedback we were getting from our customers and dealers at the time. The cool thing about the Custom Shop is that we could react so quickly to trends, musical or product wise. We probably saw an uptick in the interest of that model in the vintage market or by players, and chose to address it. It took a lot of years for me to amass such a great group of talented builders. I trusted their opinion implicitly, so we would make decisions on product like this together.

John Page
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Jan 4th, 2011 12:04 PM   Edit   Profile  

Thanks for the kind words about my career... I'm still building... I'm not dead yet!

As far as the gold anodized P/G on your Relic, my opinion is that it is one of our after market pickguards. We didn't usually put the chrome sticker on pickguards we used in-house, only on the ones we sold as accessories. Plus, if we were going to put a gold anodized guard on a Relic, we would've aged it.

John Page
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Jan 4th, 2011 12:10 PM   Edit   Profile  

Yes, the black paint in the cavity was for shielding. We wanted them to be "players", and wanted to minimize the hum as much as possible. As far as the 2 different length tuner posts... it's hard for me to answer specifically. We used staggered tuners sometimes to aid in the break angle at the peghead, perhaps that's it. Or, like your decal, you may just have a "special" one! ;0)-

John Page
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Jan 4th, 2011 12:17 PM   Edit   Profile  

We did indeed do a limited run of 1950 2 pickup Esquires... it's black, right? I seem to remember Fred Stuart and John English heading that one up. What did you want to know about it? We felt strongly about the tone of the originals being because they were old growth Southern Pine, that's why we sourced reclaimed old growth lumber. We also found how much it affected the tone of amplifier cabinets when we made Clapton's 50W Twin repro. It made a HUGE difference!

Danny Nader


Jan 5th, 2011 09:20 AM   Edit   Profile  


If I can add to what John said about tuners. My Strat has three different Sperzel tuner posts. Since it has no string trees it definitely helps the break angle & keeps that E & B string from popping out of their nut slots. Barely enough clearance on the high E to get the string through the post. But it works!

I'm not sure if it's special, but it was made when the CS was headed up by John & a great cast. So . . . maybe it is special!




Jan 5th, 2011 09:21 AM   Edit   Profile  

Thanks for your response, really appreciate your time. Yes, it is black. I was just trying to get some verification from Fender as to what the guitar actually is and they were of little help. I'm glad that you remember the production of them, it helps to verify it's authenticity.

Thanks again.

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Colmar, France

Judging a guitar by its neck
Jan 9th, 2011 09:55 AM   Edit   Profile  

Thank you John and Danny for your responses, in any case it's the finest strat I've had, and it's a keeper for sure. The neck shape is sweeet, unlike the current 69, it's closer to the CS '66.



Preserve the jams
Mar 6th, 2011 11:04 AM   Edit   Profile  

Hey John, I have a few great Strats from your time at the Custom Shop. The Strat I have a question about is how many were made in the production run? On the certificate, the model is listed as "62 Special Strat" and the serial number is 006. The certificate is dated 3-31-93. It is a non-metallic burgundy mist sort of color with matching headstock, gold vintage style hardware, dark rosewood board with flamey figuring on the back of the neck. Thanks for your time.

John Page
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Mar 8th, 2011 11:06 PM   Edit   Profile  

I'm sorry but that's not quite enough info for me to go on. It may very well have been a limited run by one of our reps (or dealers)... who didn't want to commit or limit himself to a sales quantity. Thus the "62 Special Strat, S/N 006" no limited quantity, etc. Can you post pics?



Preserve the jams
Mar 9th, 2011 07:14 AM   Edit   Profile  

Hey John, thanks for getting back to me so quick. I am at work, here is a link to a site I found that has one from the same run as mine for sale. It has a good picture of the certificate and the back of the headstock. The serial number on this one is 003. Thank you, Tim


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Lago, CA

"Dyin' ain't much of a livin'...
Mar 12th, 2011 02:53 PM   Edit   Profile  

My 1950 CS "Pinecaster" has been in the hands of San Francisco Blues Legend Chris Cobb for about 6 yrs now.

He absolutely TEARS IT UP gigging with that incredible instrument!

It is #3.


(This message was last edited by 6L6 at 09:32 PM, Mar 29th, 2011)



Mar 13th, 2011 10:17 AM   Edit   Profile  

hi 6, my pinecaster is #37 and - like you said - just an incredible guitar. special thanks to john and the old crew!!



Preserve the jams
Mar 19th, 2011 11:36 AM   Edit   Profile  

Hey John, It looks like the shop listed number 3 on ebay. They listed it as 3 of 20. Maybe they got some information from the previous owner about the run. Thanks, Tim



Mar 23rd, 2011 01:13 PM   Edit   Profile  

thank you john for considering my question, nevermind the time it took ;-)



Jan 8th, 2014 10:35 PM   Edit   Profile  


Any chance Oscar made this '97 Jazz Bass?

it 'looks' like a US Vintage, but the serial starts w/N7 - any ideas? (and the gold hardware/ashtrays and matching headstock have me stumped.

Thanks!! *N7223700*


united states

Jul 3rd, 2015 01:53 PM   Edit   Profile  


I have searched (and searched) for info on these. Some say Custom Shop Issue. Others not. Some say 57/62 pups. Some say CS Specials.

I have #0136 of 2500 (on neck plate)
no CS Logo
gold hardware
flame front/back

thanks in advance!



Jul 5th, 2015 04:25 AM   Edit   Profile  

Hi, not John here. You have a factory instrument. I had one of these, too, back then. It was based on the American Standard with some fancy upgrades, as far as I remember the pickups were 57/62. Nice looking guitar, Tele / P-Bass and Jazz Bass were also available with similar specs in the 1996 50th series.

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