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John Page

USA

Feb 23rd, 2005 08:32 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I've been getting lots of e-mails off of my website of people having gotten eroneous info about their early Custom Shop (and other) guitars, heck, even wrong facts about me, so I thought I'd get back in the mix. Any questions?

ganzonomy

Binghamton, NY, USA

GANZONOMY!
Feb 23rd, 2005 08:34 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

hey john, are you in the CS? im jason.

John Page

USA

Feb 23rd, 2005 08:38 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

No Jason, I started the Custom Shop with Mike Stevens back in 1987. I ran it until December of 1998, when I left to start the Fender Museum. Now I work on my art full-time.

(This message was last edited by John Page at 09:05 PM, Feb 23rd, 2005)

ganzonomy

Binghamton, NY, USA

GANZONOMY!
Feb 23rd, 2005 08:45 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

ahhh, ok... far out n groovy. I

Chris Greene
FDP Host

USA

I don't know why you can't post...
Feb 23rd, 2005 09:04 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Sure you want to do this, John? This can be a tough room ;o)

Welcome back!!

John Page

USA

Feb 23rd, 2005 09:08 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Heck yeah, I've got the time now! Plus, I've played lots of tough rooms... especially the meeting rooms in Scottsdale.

Rick007

usa/ct

Feb 23rd, 2005 09:13 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic


Wow, it feels like royalty has entered.

Any chance of getting now, or in the future,
a Custom Shop neck, without ordering the whole
guitar. Nice medium to hard V, flatter radius,
med or jumbos...

Or if I had a favored neck, that needs a refret
that I would prefer Fender do, due to know high
quality work :-)

Does, or would Fender provide this service.

Would probably do big business....


ganzonomy

Binghamton, NY, USA

GANZONOMY!
Feb 23rd, 2005 09:13 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

crazy question: can i have a 69 strat, made in a lefty? and how would i go about getting a 12 inch neck put on my HSS Strat

John Page

USA

Feb 23rd, 2005 09:18 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Rick007, I left Fender in 1998, so I'm afraid I can't answer those question for them. We had discussed both the offering of replacement necks and doing services for customers in the past. I know the main reason we didn't do the service end was primarily logistics. Since Fender wont do them however, you should look into sending the refret to one of the "OG" Master Builders that have their own shops now, i.e. JW Black or Fred Stuart.

John Page

USA

Feb 23rd, 2005 09:22 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Ganzonomy, you'd have to check with the CS directly to see if they could do a lefty '69, but I can't see why they couldn't, we used to do leftys all the time. As far as putting a 12" rad on your HSS, I'd take it to a repair guy and have it unfretted, re-radiused and refretted.

Rick007

usa/ct

Feb 23rd, 2005 09:23 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

thanks John

John Page

USA

Feb 23rd, 2005 09:25 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

you are welcome

ganzonomy

Binghamton, NY, USA

GANZONOMY!
Feb 23rd, 2005 09:30 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

i know i'd have to get the original neck taken off, but i have a 9.5 neck now. how am i gonna get 12 out of 9.5 unless i replace the neck.

thanx for the advice.

Steel Lyfe

USA

Feb 23rd, 2005 09:33 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic





John, is Jimmy Page your cousin?









Dreghead
Contributing Member

Kingston Springs, TN

Feb 23rd, 2005 09:38 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

John, please tell me about the Performer. I've been told this was your design. I'm the proud owner of one and I love it. Sure, it looks like a Strat on acid...but it plays and sounds great. Any details would be greatly appreciated.

John Page
Contributing Member

USA

Feb 23rd, 2005 10:09 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Dreghead, Yes the Performer was one of my designs. Believe it or not, the Performer bass (designed before the guitar) was designed to be the Elite version of the Jazz Bass... yes that's right... it was going to be the top version of the Jazz Bass... scary huh? The shape of the instrument is derivative of the back of the Strat. Look at the waist cut on the back of the Strat and you'll see where the basic horn/body shape started. At the time (1982-3ish?) I was designing this, Fender was considered a pretty conservative instrument. Kramer, BC Rich and Jackson were building these radically styled instruments, so we wanted to get into that market. In my original design, it used a Strat stlye peghead and the pickups were a double Strat humbucking setup. I also designed the Fender logo on the Performer... I can't say that that a good thing, but it was kinda cool to design a new Fender logo. We got some comments that it looked like the peavy logo, which really pissed me off. That's all I can think of. What else do you want to know?

John Page
Contributing Member

USA

Feb 23rd, 2005 10:13 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Gansonomy, a repair person will remove your neck, remove the frets, resand the 9.5" radius to a 12" radius, recut the fret slots, refret the neck, replace the nut, dress, set-up, etc. It's done all the time. If it's a maple fretboard, it's a bit more of a pain because it also has to be re-finished.

Steel Lyfe, No, but I used to get treated really nicely when I was on the guest list at one of his shows!

ganzonomy

Binghamton, NY, USA

GANZONOMY!
Feb 23rd, 2005 10:50 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

wait, so it's just a resand and that? i thought it was a bigger neck

it's maple, but i tried my friend's SRV sig CS (yes, the one that was analyzed with JV) and its too big

ill stick with 9.5

mike_levitt

United States

Feb 23rd, 2005 11:02 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Hey John,

It's great to see you here! I've got a question....

I've got one of the 2 pickup pine Esquires from back in the 90s, and I've heard all kinds of stories about where the body wood came from. All the way from the steps of a church in Alabama, to church pews in Georgia, to a barn in England?

Do you know the truth? I did hear that it was "100 years old."

Anyway, the guitar is amazing, and is probably the one I would keep if I had to choose one, and I like it so much that I actually bought a similar masterbuilt pine tele in sunburst that CF did in 2001. They're both great, but the black one is my favorite.

You might be interested to know that the huge quartersawn neck with no truss rod is still perfect after all of these years. I am sure you had to approve that one, and I applaud you for having the cojones and confidence to sell a neck like that when the consequences of not getting it perfectly right could be disasterous! You guys obviously nailed it, and there's nothing like the tone of a tele with no metal in the neck...

Anyway, any info on the esquire would be appreciated. Thanks for all of your good work!!!

Mike

Dreghead
Contributing Member

Kingston Springs, TN

Feb 23rd, 2005 11:06 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Thanks for the info on my Performer. Its cool to talk to the person who designed this beauty. It truly is a great guitar. Stays in tune better than any guitar I own...seriously! I love to show it to people who think they know Fenders. They can't believe it. What's underneath the covered pickups and what's the deal with the angle of them? In your opinion, why weren't they successful? Any clue as to how many were produced?

You mentioned the Elite in your response. Were you involved in the design of the Strat Elite? I've got one of those, too!

Sorry about all the questions. I seem to collect weird and unusual Fenders and there isn't much information on some of the models...like the Heartfields. Its as though Fender denies knowing anything about them. I had an RR-58 that was awesome.

Again, thanks for the answers.

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