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edto
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Ed in Toronto,Canada

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Feb 13th, 2005 09:46 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Take it to the Antiques Road Show, along with all the info, plus the picture showing proof it's the original proto type.

JMPRO

usa

Feb 13th, 2005 09:47 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I had never seen that picture before or the book although now i will get a copy. You are right, i laid the body on my desk in front of the screen and started comparing grain and little flaws in the wood and i am quite supprised at how close it looks. I can't find a single differance between the two.As in my earlier post i now still have a dilima as to what neck to get or one at all. I think a custom shop neck if i can get one so as not to confuse anyone as if to say "yes it has a neck, but it is'nt the original neck ". Now as i sit by the computer waiting to see what the next message will bring i feel like a school girl waiting for that prom date phone call. I applied for an on line appraisal from Grhun Guitars but have'nt heard back yet from them. Besides with all the help and research from you guys i may be able to authenticate this my self {lol}.
I played this guitar long enough to learn some real good Freddy King riffs and then when i formed a band and started gigging i switched to a tele because the strat was so heavy, plus i could get a little rougher Freddy King sound out of the tele. I even used a felt pick to get closer to Freddy's sound as he played most often with his thumb. So many of my cohorts at the time that were into surf music kept asking me why i did'nt play the cool surf guitar i had instead of the tele. I did'nt have the heart to tell them i hated surf music and would only play it if i had to, ie money.A promoter we sometimes worked with ask me if me and the band wanted to do some backup gigs for Jan & Dean. I told him i thought all they did was lip sinc and we wer'nt interested untill he told me how much money was involved- 5 times our normal nightly rate- so there we were in our Reyne Spooner shirts playing " TWO GIRLS FOR EVERY BOY" night after night on the So. Cal. leg of thier tour. Memory lane is much more plesant place now than it was then.
JMPRO


Jim Shine
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Feb 13th, 2005 11:18 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Very cool. It would be cool if the Custom Shop helped out here. They have the dies and materials to make that thing complete and killer.

JMPRO

usa

Feb 13th, 2005 12:34 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Does anyone have a e-mail address for someone important at the custom shop
JMPRO

Marty D.
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Feb 13th, 2005 03:28 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

you may want to post a link to this thread in the Ask Fender section of the FDP. My guess is Gina or Morgan or some of the other fine Fender folks may have some valuable input. Those pix are amazingly similiar. What a great story. I would want to preserve this little slice of Americana myself. Albeit in playable condition. Good luck!

VGP

used relics

Why not make 10 louder? - These go to 11
Feb 13th, 2005 04:00 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Again JMPRO, please keep us posted.

This is one of the most interesting Stratocaster stories I've heard in a while. Apart from "star" guitars (i.e. SRV's #1 and EC's Blackie),I remember a fellow FDPer that has her father's 1954 Stratocaster that Fender had shown interest in profiling for last year's Frontline. As I recall, the thing never happened.

I think a chronicled pictorial is in order. ;)

JMPRO

usa

Feb 13th, 2005 04:29 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Marty d. i don't know how to post a link to the other forum. If someone could do it for me, thanks.
VGP
what do you mean "chronicled pictorial"? If i could figure out how to post pics to this forum i have many more.
JMPRO

ElectricMud

Austin, Tx

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Feb 13th, 2005 04:36 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Man...I'm a strat freak, and this is the coolest story I've ever heard of!!!

VGP

used relics

Why not make 10 louder? - These go to 11
Feb 13th, 2005 04:51 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

JMPRO - in order to post pictures here you have to become a contributing member (forgive me Chris Greene)...

Or you post links to other sites using the fields below the reply field.

I posted a link to this topic in the Ask Fender forum. There's not a lot of traffic there, but we'll see.

I'd like to hear the opinions of the guys at Fender on this matter.

Marty D.
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Feb 13th, 2005 06:29 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Good Job VGP. This should be interesting. Maybe Uncle Bill will even weigh in on this one.

twangsthethang
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Portland, Oregon

thestringsthething
Feb 13th, 2005 07:22 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Something like this definitly deserves special attention. Maybe try to work out a deal with Fender to loan this piece to the Fender Museum, and maybe, just maybe, they would give you a Custom Shop guitar as compensation!! --twang

VGP

used relics

Why not make 10 louder? - These go to 11
Feb 13th, 2005 07:31 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I relocated the link to the Fender Custom Shop forum. I just noticed that the FDP is limiting discussion on the Ask Fender forum to MODERN Fender products. Since there's not "vintage" guitar forum, I put it in the Custom Shop forum.

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Feb 13th, 2005 10:19 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

How does an unfinished body like this one get authenticated?





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Feb 13th, 2005 10:24 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Great story and good eye richardb64!

JMPRO welcome to the FDP.

VGP

used relics

Why not make 10 louder? - These go to 11
Feb 13th, 2005 10:31 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Tom Gallo - In this case, the intriguing evidence is in the photographs. Do a comparison with the unfinished body of JMPRO with the photo from the book on Fender history. It would be impossible to fake wood grain and wood imperfections like that. If the information from JMPRO and details on the photo are correct, I think this is a very interesting story. This harks back to the photos of the prototype guitars that predated the telecaster...

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Tunisian Camel Jockey
Feb 13th, 2005 11:25 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Ah. I see. Thanks.



twangsthethang
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Feb 14th, 2005 12:56 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I have the same fender book as richardb64 "The Sound Heard 'Round The World", and on page 127 there is a photograph of the front of the guitar...it matches exactly. In the book it is refered to as the "first Stratocaster". So what you have JMPRO is the very first stratocaster made by Leo Fender. I would post that picture from the book but I don't have a scanner. Maybe richardb64 would scan and post it as well. JMPRO, you definitly have a very important, long lost piece of history there. --twang

(This message was last edited by twangsthethang at 12:57 AM, Feb 14th, 2005)

j0shua
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Malaysia

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Feb 14th, 2005 01:36 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Very cool, JMPRO. Just going back to the story about George Fullerton and your father, I'm just curious about how the guitar got there in the first place. If it is #1 Strat, I'd love to hear more about the history and the sequence of events that led up to it being in your closet.

fred smoot

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Feb 14th, 2005 10:16 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Be patient with the CS, it's an unusual situation, and some of the people in higher echelons at Fender may not be immediately available.

There may have been some concern about authenticity in their minds initially, but once they compare the pictures, that will vanish.

As for whether or not you might be able to obtain a neck from them- or what else might be possible- the normal rules don't apply to this guitar.

I'd suggest being patient, but if you're concerned the communication chain might have broken down, just give them a call.

edto
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Ed in Toronto,Canada

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Feb 14th, 2005 11:24 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Do you guys think we should call this Strat number1 instead of ‘54 with out a neck’ or ‘Strat proto-type’? Because it is the first Strat made. Or should this be referred to as the Strat proto-type and the first Strat in regular product would have been called Strat number 1?

JMPRO, any chance of us seeing pictures of the other parts?

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