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JMPRO

usa

Feb 11th, 2005 07:25 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I have a very early 54 strat{3 spring trem w/ narrow spring route} that was assembled on our kitchen table by George Fullerton and my father. The parts were all right out of the parts bin, no finish on the body, no chrome on the bridge or the neck plate.The neck was finished, so there might have been a # on it but i transfered the neck to a tele i was playing a few years later and in the early sixtys sold the tele with the strat neck on it.{ if you see a 62 tele with a strat neck on it for sale - snap it up
] I am now trying to restore the strat to as close to its original condition as i can but can't see the high price for an original 54 neck . I spoke with Fender custom shop and they expressed some interest in maybe suppling a ri neck but have'nt called me back yet. I know 1 of the pups is original and maybe 2 of the pots. The pickgaurd is original although it has been altered. The trem cover is not original although it is old. so what would you do?
JMPRO

twangsthethang
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Portland, Oregon

thestringsthething
Feb 11th, 2005 10:16 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

If price is an issue, I'd go with the Fender Custom Shop neck since they would supply as close to the original as possible and can also supply you with one that's been relic'd to match the condition of the guitar.

Otherwise check E-bay or Vintage Guitar Magazine for original necks. Some of those dealers in Vintage Guitar have pretty good resources.
--twang

Electron

Patent Pending

Detached from the atom.
Feb 12th, 2005 08:04 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

If you want a custom shop neck, you have to buy the whole guitar. They don't sell them seperately.

Do you have pix? Fender's patent shows

5 springs.

JMPRO

usa

Feb 12th, 2005 09:02 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Electron, I have pics but don't know how to post on this forum. The pics are on the forum at "stratcollector.com". When i talked to Alex at the custom shop he said he might want to see the guitar and maybe we could work something out as far as getting a neck. I take that to mean there is a possibility of getting a neck from them. He has'nt called me back yet.
JMPRO

Electron

Patent Pending

Detached from the atom.
Feb 12th, 2005 09:05 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Email me the pics, I can post them for you.

JMPRO

usa

Feb 12th, 2005 09:06 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Here is a link to the pics
JMPRO

54 strat pics

JMPRO

usa

Feb 12th, 2005 09:07 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Sorry, that link did not work
JMPRO

Marty D.
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Feb 12th, 2005 09:34 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

What do you intend to do with it once it's complete?

I like the CS idea personally. I'd have one made to my taste and use it as a player.

If you're looking at selling it, I'd check the sources already mentioned as well as Gruhn, Dave's Guitars and other vintage shops. Go to the local shops and ask around about necks. They may be able to help you, not to mention the odd chance you might run across your Tele or a lead to who has it. You'll still have a fraction(albeit a large one)of the value invested. Especially if you can verify the history. I'm sure some collector would be interested in it.

Electron

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Feb 12th, 2005 09:53 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Here's the pics:

http://electron.tailfeatherz.com/images/Temp/pic1.jpg
http://electron.tailfeatherz.com/images/Temp/pic2.jpg
http://electron.tailfeatherz.com/images/Temp/pic3.jpg
http://electron.tailfeatherz.com/images/Temp/pic4.jpg
http://electron.tailfeatherz.com/images/Temp/pic5.jpg

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JMPRO

usa

Feb 12th, 2005 10:04 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The tele was sold to "The house of music" in Santa Ana Ca. about 64 or 65 so i don't think it would be easy to track down.That store closed a few years later and All i can remember is the guys name that owned the store was George.
JMPRO

JMPRO

usa

Feb 12th, 2005 04:30 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I am not sure what i intend to do with it once i worked this out. I think one of the things is that i am getting older and i am the only one in the family that knows the whole story behind this guitar and i don't want it to end up at a garage sale when i'm gone. Aside from the money i think the history is important to preseve. I don't play much anymore and when i do i really perfer my Les Paul so unless someone comes up with a number i can't turn down i will just keep it for a few more years. Its been in the closet since the early sixtys so a few more years won't make much differance
JMPRO

VGP

used relics

Why not make 10 louder? - These go to 11
Feb 12th, 2005 08:16 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

JMPRO - great story. I hope things work out with the Fender Custom Shop. Very few personal vintage guitar stories these days. Especially those that deal with original Fender personell.

Keep us posted!

(with pics)

2fatstrat

Winter park Fla.

Feb 12th, 2005 08:56 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Hey there is a 54 strat neck on ebay w 18 hrs to go as of 10:50 eastern time . just go to electric and type in 54 it is at the bottom of the page.

richardb64
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Feb 13th, 2005 02:37 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

JMPRO - that is a seriously cool piece of Fender history. There's a pic of that VERY guitar (with the neck) in the book "Fender - The Sound Heard Around the World". Maybe you know that?

The grain is identical. Look at the angled grain above the neck plate that runs into the join. It's 100% for sure the same guitar. Very cool indeed. I'd start saving for a real '54 neck if I were you.

Maybe Fender would buy it from you?....

In the Fender book...

(This message was last edited by richardb64 at 03:01 AM, Feb 13th, 2005)

pepe
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ireland

Feb 13th, 2005 08:12 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Fantastic story and a cool piece of Fender history!!
Hope it all works out!

kshep
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San Francisco, CA

Feb 13th, 2005 08:33 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I don't think I'd bother with a neck, or if I did I'd certainly go with a Custom Shop neck.

Mating this prototype body with another '54 neck may just confuse folks and may cause some to question the authenticity of the rest of the parts.

If it were mine, I'd probably just write up the story as thoroughly as possible, get a copy of "The Sound Heard Round the World", and lock everything up in a time capsule.

I sure don't know Fender's policy about buying back old pieces and prototypes for display in their museum, but that sure seems like a better place for this than having it end up on eBay in twenty years with a random neck and a newly relic'ed 2-tone burst finish.

VGP

used relics

Why not make 10 louder? - These go to 11
Feb 13th, 2005 08:39 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I agree. That body looks the same as the one in the Fender book. It was fun to match it up like comparing fingerprints!

I'd perhaps contact some key vintage guitar dealers. They would have the connections and expertise to track down an early (you want a very early) Strat neck.

OTOH, I do think that the Custom Shop can do a great repro job.

I'd send out feelers in both directions and then decide what the best option is. As I see it, that body belongs at the Fender Museum.

kshep
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San Francisco, CA

Feb 13th, 2005 09:10 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

You might also just offer to loan it to the Fender museum.

telemarco
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Feb 13th, 2005 09:12 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

What a great story with historical verification , man that's real AMERICANA , Fender style. If i had it i'd go to the CS for a neck repro.

J Perry
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USA

"Have Strats Will Travel"
Feb 13th, 2005 09:23 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I like the sell it to Fender idea the best, its a part of history and deserves a place that reflects its status. I have a feeling that once those guys at the Custom Shop get wind of what you actually have things will get going quickly. Id send em some pics of it and the history, I bet they call you back.
Back in 93 I had a friend I worked with that heard I was into Fenders, she asked me the value of a P-Bass, explained its condition, which she decribed as near mint with original gig bag etc. I never saw the bass but told her how to date it or take it to a shop and have them do it for her. This was a summer job in Alaska, I saw her the next summer and she thanked me for helping her out, then she told me the story. Turns out she took it to Seattle, the first guy that inspected it offered her some huge amount for it. One thing I did mention was to take it to several places to get checked out, she turned him down and took it to another place. Turns out it was one of the first 100 P-Basses made, it now sits in a museum in Seattle and she got what it was worth.

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