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StratQuebec
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Trois-Rivières/QC

Fender's "Lick of the week" winner!
May 3rd, 2005 11:48 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Oups my words have been taken wrong by some maybe. I'm sorry. Let me state it differently

Idiot18 said:
"So it makes you a better player"

That is not true. One can have that "illusion" at first and that's really OK!. But once one got used to play with a backing track(s), he'll find that his playing, in fact is not really better. Playing will certainly be easier but not better.

On the other hand, the simple fact to play more often, as Jim Shine said, certainly helps to push a guitarist in the good direction to really improve his playing that is:

Record yourself with the G-Dec backing track of you choice.
Turn off your G-DEC!
Do some ear training
Learn new scales
Learn new chords progression
Turn on your G-DEC!
Record yourself with the same backing track

Now, you're really better!

And when a new G-DEC version will incorporate a hard disk, you'll be able to do that anywhere, anytime using just your guitar and your G-DEC (SE!!!).

Idiot18

USA

May 7th, 2005 03:40 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Playing to strict time (and not the crazy madronome in your head)makes players immeasurably better. If you've ever tried to jam with a guy who played mostly alone, the first thing that usually comes up is he can't play time--meaning he rushes and slows, turns the "1" around, plays sloppily, out of time, and generally wrecks the jam.

G-DEC, because it is so addictive, encourages the player to not just plat time, but play in the pocket to a groove, even better.

The first question in any jazz band about a new player is always, "Can he play time?" Jazz players know of what they speak. That same question should really be the first asked in any band.

Part II is that a player can expand his ears just by playing to grooves, especially those with changes. But.

I heartily concur that a player also needs to turn off the G-DEC and do the chord/scale woodshedding to get better. And the more lessons the better. Those new CD instructionals are amazing.

In fact, if Fender gets their support thing going, don't be surprised to see instructional PC software which uses G-DEC live for both tones and the midi playback of practice tunes.

(This message was last edited by Idiot18 at 02:07 AM, May 12th, 2005)

strummer

usa

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May 19th, 2005 01:15 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Feature creep?

GDEC itself is a feature creep. Leo would never have gone there. GDEC is not an amp, (especially in the fender sense!); its an effects device.

Not knocking the thing, but Shane's a bit extreme with his dialogue example. don't insult the telecaster with such analogies.

rww10

USA

Jun 7th, 2005 08:29 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I bought one recently and really enjoy it. Sure makes practice a lot more fun! I agree with the suggestions made above. A "next generation" with a more features would be a big seller. Good job Fender!

Stratocruiser

Siddeney, Orstraylya

Speed Is Life, Altitude Is Good
Jun 13th, 2005 06:07 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I picked up a G-DEC yesterday - they've just made it to Australia. I'm probably smack in the target market - a geezer who played a bit of acoustic in his youth and is now in second childhood. I started out earlier this year with an SE-100 Pak, but in playing scales and rhythm practice, the little SP-10 amp either sounded like a slightly louder acoustic or very unsubtle overdrive.

So, I wandered into the music store with the intention of picking up a discounted Zoom 505 II or maybe a 606. The salesman had talked me into a GFX-1 and we were on our way back to the sales desk when I spotted a pyramid of G-DEC's. $A499, discounted from $A599, a little more than I was planning to spend - so I smiled sweetly at She Who Must Be Obeyed, and I figure it's an early Father's Day/Birthday and probably Christmas present to myself.

From my perspective, it solves a number of problems - I've now got a much better practice amp than the SP-10, I've got the various effects and better sounds I was after, and I've got some bass'n'drums to practice too, as well. It's probably a cheaper upgrade than buying all those things separately. My son (who plays bass) and I spent an hour or so last night just trying all the various presets, and had a ball.

It certainly puts a lot more fun into practice. Next step is to hook it up to the MIDI setup we have here. I suspect I won't be the only one using it, since daughter plays flute and clarinet, and SWMBO wants to get back to playing piano, and I reckon the G-DEC (esp. with MIDI) can probably provide backing for those two. Hell, in our family, all we need is a drummer, anyway!





NickelRocker
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Asheville, NC

Sometimes I wish I were Bugs Bunny
Jun 18th, 2005 07:44 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Finally saw my first G-DEC yesterday and was extremely impressed (out of respect for my fellow man, I didn't plug in...)

Probably sat there for twenty minutes or so just playing around with the presets and came >this< close to buying one, but clearer heads prevailed and I didn't. I have NO idea what MIDI is or what it does so that feature didn't/doesn't interest me. I did like the fact that I could plug in my cd player and play along.

Naysayers be darned, this seems to be a rockin' little practice amp perfect for the bedroom player looking for actual accompaniment instead of trying to play along with a cd/tape of some sort.

It's on my list now all I have to do is pull the trigger.

StratQuebec
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Trois-Rivières/QC

Fender's "Lick of the week" winner!
Jun 19th, 2005 08:21 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

You can listen to some mp3 recorded by FDPers using their G-Dec ...

... Here! Look for the NEW icon

(This message was last edited by StratQuebec at 08:22 PM, Jun 19th, 2005)

dave_wilson

USA

Jul 4th, 2005 09:56 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I bought the G-Dec about three weeks ago, and I love it. It is the best electronic gadget that I bought in years. The presets are useful right out of the box.

Last night, I hooked the G-Dec to my Mac using a MIDI interface, and had the G-Dec playing MIDI songs for me to jam with - very cool! I also uploaded all my User presets to the Mac. It only took a few seconds. The next experiment is to upload some of my favorite MIDI songs as new presets.

Feature Request: A front-panel button to disable the bass pattern, and juts use the drums.

The G-Dec is a great amp.

mushin

Australia

Jul 23rd, 2005 11:53 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Hi All,

Im new to this forum and guitar playing in general. I bought a fender acoustic at Chrissy just gone and an early B'day pressy for myself a couple of weeks ago on some R&R from my assignment in India (Australia is Home). The Bday pressy was a Godin electric and a GDEC.

First of all- Brilliant. For a not knowing where to start kind of guy (although engineer by nature) I go to the area that I am a little more familiar with- Rhythm acoustic. Playing a few open chords etc. Set the Amp to Acoustic and some other similar presets and have some fun. Sounds great.......

except for the distortion that comes out of the open strings. Even at low settings, all set to Clean type sounds etc, the open strings break up. I went back to the Dealer after a week and he said he had a person bring one back 2 days before me with the same complaint. It appears it is an inherent feature. He spoke to Fender and got no constructive feedback.

Not really happy with that but overall that is only a small part of things. ( I had even checked to see if it was a speaker problem by plugging the headphone jack into a stereo( This bypasses the 8" speaker)- same problem).

Solution......

Pick a different Amp preset and get it as close to the acoustic as you can withthe other features. It isnt quite the same but it is a practice amp.

I spoke to the guitar shop about a midi connector- they can sell me a usb one but were out of stock.

When I get back from India- Guess what gets a hammering ;P

(have the acoustic in India just keeping it real)

Mick


Daggy

Australia

Ego, is not a dirty word
Jul 29th, 2005 05:51 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I was lucky enough to come home from work one day last week to find my lovely wife had once again spoiled me by buying me G-DEC.

I'd had a listed to one in the shop a week or so before and thought it was a pretty cool idea for someone like me to practice with.

Now with a few days fiddling it just keeps getting better and better.

I've already made some of my own sound setting and have been really enjoying some of the cool effects.

As someone who has only been playing for about a year, my ability to hear notes or chords is still developing, so playing along with the backing tracks where there is a definite bass pattern can be a little frustrating trying to figure out what chords to play that go with the bass.

Some are pretty easy, like the rock clock one which is a simple A to D to A to E to D to A pattern, and the Think Floyd is a Bm to A to G to Em pattern (I think they are right).

I wonder if it's worth starting off a new topic (or indeed putting them in here) where people who are a little more experianced can give a basic chord pattern to go along with each of the backing tracks.

For people who are still learning it would be a great help and would make the learning process much more fun.

Of course I guess the good folks at Fender could have given us something like that but judging by the instruction manual they obviously think less is more!

Anyway, if anyone has sussed out the chord pregressions for any of the std backing tracks and wouldn't mind putting them up that would be great.

(This message was last edited by Daggy at 07:49 PM, Jul 29th, 2005)

JimmySee
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Today's weather: still sunny & warm!
Jul 29th, 2005 07:14 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I got my G-DEC back in March or so when they started shipping.

Before the G-DEC, I used a Cyber-Champ for my bedroom amp. The Cyber-Champ replaced a Tech 21 TM-10 which was sold when I got the Cyber-Champ.

My Cyber-Champ was sold here on fdp (to Triggerfinger) and I do not regret it!

The G-DEC is perfect for me.

It worked right out of the box and I have not had a lick of trouble in the four months I have had it.

Love the pre-sets. Especially the down and dirty murky distorted multi-effects pre-sets.

Even makes my miserable playing sound good (to my ears anyway!) ... and at low volumes!

I've said it before and it is worth repeating -- the G-DEC is the most fun any musician (or wanker in my case) can have for under $300!

Jimmy



ndf9

Faro Portugal

Oct 24th, 2005 04:18 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Hy Guys
I write from Portugal and i think i'm the first one here that hase buy a Gdec. Then they have never hear the name in the store and i show them wat i need. Im 40 years old, and not a great player. But with the G-Dec i have fun and fun my fingers are hurt then i stop only when i tired.

One question how can i conect the G-Dec with my PC and jused with the band in a box or any midi file that i can download from the net?

Regards Nicola

Stratocruiser
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Siddeney, Orstraylya

Speed Is Life, Altitude Is Good
Oct 28th, 2005 11:58 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Nicola, you'll find a huge amount of information in

The G-DEC Posse thread

DanL
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Northern CT - USA

...I dig Larry Carlton...
Dec 20th, 2005 05:50 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Congrats to Fender! What a cool little practice amp. Got one on sale last night for $219 (Media Play going out of business).

I'm a semi-pro gigging musician with 30 years of experience. I've got tons of great gear and really didn't need any more. But this amp is just a blast to use. Had perma-grin for hours last night after I plugged in.

I love how simple it is to use. Didn't need the manual at all - figured everything out just by hitting buttons. Very intuitive interface and very user friendly. I like it just the way it is...afterall it's just a low cost practice amp. If they added in more bells & whistles, we'd be paying for it. I've already got recording gear, a drum machine with a multi-track sequencer, several high wattage amps, etc. What I wanted was a fun little practice amp that I'd actually use and I feel like that's exactly what I got.

Gotta go jam now. Nice job Fender. I continue to be impressed with Fender products!


Fendergirl
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Help, I've Fallen

and I can't reach my G-DEC
Dec 20th, 2005 09:21 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Hey Nicola welcome to the wonderful world of the G-DEC! In addition to reading some posts in the G-DEC posse, you should also visit the Fender.com website and download the G-DEC MIDI guide in the support area. Have fun!

(This message was last edited by Fendergirl at 09:22 PM, Dec 20th, 2005)

jay1vinton
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Hawaii, USA

Gekko the barking lizard
Apr 3rd, 2006 08:45 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I just bought one on Saturday, I have not had time to venture into the settings and changes. My first impressions were, a great practice tool.

I beleive that those looking for some type of complete package to fulfill every one of THEIR requirements may find the little box lacking. But to fulfill the requirement of jamming in time, creating licks to fit, practicing what you have learned, it is perfect. All the scales, modes, licks and tricks alive won't count for anything if you can't play in time, or behind the beat or any of the things needed for the real world of playing with ensemble musicians. This helps you get there.

Beanotone

USA/CA

May 31st, 2006 12:49 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Seems to be some murmurs of a new model possibly coming out at Summer NAMM. But it won't be a gigging-spec deal, just an expansion of the existing features in a small practice format. Folks sure are clamoring for a lot of new features.

Strat-Sure it makes you a better player. Especially playing to those new Koch tracks which give you not only vastly better tones but more complete song-like progressions to play over. #1 downside to playing with a loner self-taught guitarist is they can't play to the beat because they never had to. They can always learn new chords, scales and riffs. But you can't unlearn bad rhythm. So they speed up and slow down and their execution is sloppy to the beat. There's practically no cure to that once a player goes into the time weeds. Best to start them right playing to good time. Just my opinion.

midivox

USA

Love is a SOUND
May 16th, 2007 10:56 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Hello Fender Benders,
I got the GDec 30 today. I liked about 30 of the 50 Guitar Tone/Amp/Effects Presets. The others were too hard rock for me.

I only liked about a dozen of the 50 backing tracks presets, the others sounded well too cheesy and robotic, but its very easy to edit and save your own backing presets, so I am not worried about the ones I did not care for.

I d0 not play in a ear drum popping rock band, so the GDec 30 is loud enough to gig with even with the Volume only on 4. I plan to use the amp mainly for giving guitar lessons.

As a portable one man band, teaching amp gadget, I have to give it 10 for plain fun and for having really nice Fender Amp Models, Tweed, Blackface, Twin Reverb, etc. I have 4 midi guitars, so I plan to midi guitar with the GDec 30 also.

Many more guitar amps will be like the GDec 30 in the future. Having everything onboard, even a GM Synth is very musicly useful.

Happy Sounds
MidiVox


jamarolf

America

Jun 12th, 2008 03:31 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I bought a G-DEC when I was in Iraq last year and lent it to another guitar player. He plugged it into 220v outlet and popped my transformer. I can't seem to find a replacement or tech info on it for the output voltages so I might find something simalar. Can anyone help me out?

(This message was last edited by jamarolf at 06:41 AM, Jun 13th, 2008)

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