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StratQuebec+
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Trois-Rivières/QC

Fender's "Lick of the week" winner!
Jan 22nd, 2005 10:10 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Congradulations Fender.

G-DEC the Guitar-DEC (Guitar Digital Entertainment Center), is, almost, a very good idea, but as is, it misses the most IMPORTANT feature:

Fender listen to this:
Children and teenagers Want To, and NEED to listen to themselves to become a better rock, jazz, country, name it, guitar player! Put a basic digital 4,6 or 8 tracks recorder in it, add a little wav2mp3 automatic converter, a USB port to upload files in an mp3 player, provide a little place on the web to share files, advertise in music schools and stores, and you'll see the sales increasing suddenly! It will become the only "Ultimate Integrated Portable Internet-Ready Pratice-Teaching Guitar Amplifier" available. Call it the GDEC-4, GDEC-6 or GDEC-8.

The GDEC series: The perfect tools for the todays students AND teachers!

Continue to innovate Fender and Good luck with the GDEC-x series!


And please, give the actual Cyber-Deluxe owners a soft upgrade ;-)

(This message was last edited by StratQuebec+ at 04:54 PM, Jan 27th, 2005)

ziggy2000

USA

Jan 22nd, 2005 10:28 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Yes!! Excellent idea... I'm seriously considering a GDEC for my daughter who is just starting out. Looks like great fun for her (and dad too! ;-) and a great learning tool. The addition of a digital recorder would improve it exponentially! Something on the order of a Zoom PS-02 or PS-04 would be perfect, and obviously small enough to incorporate into the chassis. The GDEC is a great idea, however, and look for other companies to come out with similar products. I look forward to seeing some hands-on reviews here once it starts shipping! (Late Feb.???)

Silverface
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Hermosa Beach CA

There's no life East of Sepulveda...
Jan 24th, 2005 03:18 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Love the idea, and it sounded great - but why MIDI and no USB?

We're not keyboard players. USB would be PERFECT.

Edited to add - there doesn't need to be a recorder built into the unit. Any of the computer-based multitrack software systems can take stuff dumped through a USB port. Work out your music, dump it onto your computer's mulittrack, add more tracks if you want and burn to CD.

Makess a ton more sense...and a lot more fun...than messing with MIDI channels and an interface most computers don't even have (MIDI).

(This message was last edited by Silverface at 04:35 PM, Jan 25th, 2005)

Bergen

Philly, PA, USA

Jan 28th, 2005 08:54 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

It would also be nice if they came out with a model which has all the current features, plus the ones suggested here by other users, in a bigger, more powerful version. The 15 watts with 8" speaker is fine for practice, but believe it or not, there are a few of us (well, at least one that I know of!) who would take such an amp on the road as a 1-person band! Right now I lug a keyboard along with me, just to give me the pre-recorded backup tracks. Give me a G-DEC with 60 watts, 12" speaker a couple of inputs, and I just might buy it!

JimmySee
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Santa Monica, CA

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Jan 28th, 2005 12:52 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

All good ideas for later products -- but all increase the price.

More folks can afford this at $260 steet than at an increased price required by adding features.

In the Frontline, based on the photos, the primary audience is beginners - kids. The G-DEC even comes with a shoulder strap so it can easily be carried around.

Add a hard disk, bigger speaker, more power, etc. and it becomes heavier and more difficult to transport. You're moving away from the product concept and target audience.

I love that this thing is so clearly drawn. It is what it is. There is a lot there that interests me.

Its limitations are integral to the low price -- so for now, that's OK with me.

Jimmy

ziggy2000
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USA

Jan 30th, 2005 08:21 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

You're right on, JimmySee! But I absolutely believe that the folks who have expressed opinions _would_ be willing to pay the extra price point for the features mentioned... Bergen should expect to pay more for a 60-watt version w/larger speakers and more inputs. $260 may be about right for a "practice" amp with these features; who would expect additional features for the same price? Point is, this is a new beast, and likely to define a new market segment. The G-DEC (as is) is hopefully just a toe in the water! Fender has a tendency to stagnate during a "product year", and is likely to be eclipsed by other companies with shorter development cycles. I predict before long we'll see larger-scale products and more features like those mentioned above. Let's just remember that Fender did it first...

Shane Nicholas - Fender

USA

Fender Amps
Feb 9th, 2005 04:40 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Everyone,
Thanks for all the interest. I am sure you will enjoy the GDEC immensely once you get a chance to sit with one yourself (as Jimmy See did). It is a great-sounding, easy to use amp; first of its kind anywhere on planet Earth.

Here's what went through my mind through all this feature-creep discussion:

Music Enthusiast, 1951:

"Hey Leo, your Telecaster would be so much better if it had a glued-in neck joint. What's so hard about that?"

Music Store Guy, 1951:

"Hey, Leo, your Telecaster would be so much nicer if it had a wooden bridge instead of all that metal."

Ha-ha, I think you get my drift.

Shane


Ebm



Feb 11th, 2005 08:30 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"Everyone,
Thanks for all the interest. I am sure you will enjoy the GDEC immensely once you get a chance to sit with one yourself (as Jimmy See did). It is a great-sounding, easy to use amp; first of its kind anywhere on planet Earth.

Here's what went through my mind through all this feature-creep discussion:

Music Enthusiast, 1951:

"Hey Leo, your Telecaster would be so much better if it had a glued-in neck joint. What's so hard about that?"

Music Store Guy, 1951:

"Hey, Leo, your Telecaster would be so much nicer if it had a wooden bridge instead of all that metal."

Ha-ha, I think you get my drift.

Shane"


I guess what that means is y'all ain't gonna change a thing???

When I *read* about it (are they even out now?) The only things I thought it needed, given the people this thing is aimed at, are a few 'out' jacks. Like XLR, line-out, usb. Something like that.

Wouldn't cost you folks that much, and would add much to the usfulness of it.

At least for *this* beginner. ;)

telefreak
Contributing Member

USA

GAS almost satisfied?
Feb 11th, 2005 12:53 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

When I *read* about it (are they even out now?) The only things I thought it needed, given the people this thing is aimed at, are a few 'out' jacks. Like XLR, line-out, usb. Something like that.

Wouldn't cost you folks that much, and would add much to the usfulness of it.

At least for *this* beginner. ;)

Ebm

I agree with you. They arent going to change something that is already in its initial production but some kind of out jack usb or whatever would be awesome in the next update.

I actually hadnt looked that deeply yet at this unit...Does it have some kind of out jack on it?



StratQuebec+
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Trois-Rivières/QC

Fender's "Lick of the week" winner!
Feb 11th, 2005 10:03 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Be careful Fender... Leo's watching!

Well folks look at what happened to the Cyber-twin... Is it that kind of "dritf" Shane is talking about? ;-)

Time will tell!

Ebm



Feb 13th, 2005 05:59 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"...Does it have some kind of out jack on it?"

I was hoping someone that has actually seen one (like a Fender employ) would chime in, but ....

As far as I can tell, by looking at the pictures and reading the specs, -- NO. Just a couple of midi connections, which don't qualify as an 'out jack'.

Oh well ... maybe next time.

Shane Nicholas - Fender

USA

Fender Amps
Feb 14th, 2005 12:51 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The headphone out is dual-purpose. It works well as a Stereo line out.

Again, the whole point is that the G-DEC is simple, easy-to-use, fun, and priced right.



Ebm



Feb 14th, 2005 01:09 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Thanks for the info Shane.

archiestone
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SF Bay

Feb 23rd, 2005 02:24 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I look forward to a 12" speaker model.

Bobs Your Uncle

Canada

Feb 24th, 2005 07:26 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Does anybody know of where one can find a manual and technical information for the G-DEC? The Fender site has tonnes of manuals but not one for the G-DEC.

Specifically, I'm hoping that Fender will release the Midi SysEx information for the G-DEC. This will allow software developers to add features to the G-DEC. For example, imagine offering online guitar lessons, and having these lessons uploaded to the G-DEC. The budding guitarist can study these lessons anywhere they take their G-DEC.


violettj

Raleigh, NC USA

Feb 25th, 2005 08:08 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Yeah, look here. Lot's of info and samples.

I wonder how the pick response is? Dyna touchish?

John

Link to GDEC

violettj

Raleigh, NC USA

Feb 25th, 2005 08:10 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Shane,

What guitar were you using?

On the surf sample, what pickup were you using? I love surf tone!

John

harry64
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nky

"A man's got to know his limitations"
Feb 26th, 2005 11:00 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

As far as "bigger and more power", could this be used in front of a cab?

AlaskanFlyGuy

USA

Fly Fishing, guitars,& great cigars
Mar 15th, 2005 08:33 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I just got mine last night. It is plenty of fun that's for sure! I must say though, Fender should be ashamed of the effort (or lack of)put into the manual. With all the features it has and to only include 9 pages of instructions is pretty bad. The manual does not even scratch the surface of what this thing can do, but you will have to "hunt and peck" to find features that are not defined in the book. Don't get me wrong now... I do really like this amp but it would have been much more user frendly with better documentation.

Brandon James
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Mar 18th, 2005 10:01 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I keep hearing people say the GDEC is aimed at beginners, but I think "intermediate" and advanced, heck even professional players could find it useful or at least a lot fun.

I personally have been looking at small amps that have effects. I want something easily transportable, around the house or taken to a friend's or family. I did want one of the new little Vox Valvetronix, but now the GDEC is on my to buy list. The Vox may have slightly better tone, but I'm willing to sacrifice a little tone for the GDEC's accompaniment features.

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