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FDP Forum / Fender Product Reviews / HRDeluxe Vs. HRDeville.... (This message was last edited by baday12345 at 12:59 PM, Mar 20th, 2007)
FDP Forum / Fender Product Reviews / HRDeluxe Vs. HRDeville....
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Northern CT - USA
...I dig Larry Carlton...
Oct 21st, 2005 06:46 PM Edit Profile
I've got lots of amps but I find myself using my HR DeVille 2x12 the most for pretty much everything...especially outside gigs where I can let it sing, and I don't have to worry about some of my higher priced and more fragile rigs.
It's a well built work horse of an amp. I love mine! Fender definitely got this one right...
Oct 24th, 2005 05:09 PM Edit Profile
I have a Deville 4x10 and love it. My only problem is, it's to damn loud for home use. The volume control is very, very sensitive.
But, playing the Gretsch Setzer 6120 through it is absolutely the best tone I've ever heard.
Oct 28th, 2005 05:03 PM Edit Profile
I was recently in the market for a new tube amp, and ended up buying a 40w Traynor over the Deluxe/DeVille, mainly due to the good reputation Traynor's overdrive channel has compared to the bad rep for the Fender Hotrods' overdrive (just what I read in the reviews!). I'm not 100% satisfied with the Traynor, so I have a couple of questions for you DeVille owners...
When you say it's too loud, do you mean it only sounds good when you crank it up loud? (Is it's quiet sound too thin or bad in other ways?). My Fender Stage 160 and Pro 185 solid state amps have extremely sensitive volume controls too, but even if it takes microscopic adjustments you can still get any volume you want, and they still sound good at bedroom levels.
Is it true that only the clean channel sounds good, and that's the channel you're complimenting in the above posts? I bought the Traynor mainly for it's overdrive channel, as I've never been one for using stomp boxes. From what I've read it appears that the DeVille's overdrive channel sounds a lot worse than the Traynor's, however if I can get a great sound with a DeVille and a pedal then that's worth considering.
Lastly, do you guys play stock standard DeVille's, or do they only sound good after upgraded tubes and speakers?
Sorry if this post sounds like I'm amp-bashing the Hotrods, but I don't mean it that way. I'm just looking for objective opinions from Hotrod owners on some of the negative things I've read about these amps.
Tucson, AZ USA
MBJ KC-LOBC DSG
Oct 28th, 2005 07:10 PM Edit Profile
I've found that the OD channel is very sensitive and hard to make fine adjustments of the ovredrive on. I think it can sound OK if you take the time to find that knife-edge balance but this over-sensitivity makes it difficult to use in a live situation. OTOH, the clean channel seems to be a lot more user-friendly and therefore useful.
My DeVille is dead stock and capable of sounding pretty good that way.
Nov 19th, 2005 01:09 PM Edit Profile
I've tried the Deville 2x12, 4x10, and Hot Rod Deluxe. My favorite of them all is the Deluxe which I proudly own. I found the tone more "golden" sounding than the Devilles which ten to be flatter sounding in their treble response.
I love both the Devilles and the Deluxes. I had a choice between all of them but the HRDlx is the amp for me.
Are there power outlets in Heaven?
Oct 6th, 2006 10:07 AM Edit Profile
I've been using my Deville 410 for about 3 weeks now, it is stock with the exception of new JJ power tubes. I agree that the overdrive channel volume pot is very sensitive but can be dialed to sound great at any level. I do get varying degrees of desirability on the overdrive channel depending on pups used. I LOVE the sound of my Duncan 59's on my Les Paul through the over drive channel. Overall I find myself playing this amp over my Blues Jr quite a bit. Great amp, wish I had more opportunities to let it sing with all the tubes cooking, not just the preamp tubes.
Mar 20th, 2007 12:58 PM Edit Profile
just got one a few days ago... here are my initial impressions (fwiw).
the clean channel it great (warm, full, sincere) and my overriding reason for buying it. the od/drive thing is NOT (dry, narrow, thin) and does seem more sensitive with the knobs. i use pedals to get the cool dist/od tones, which i see as a must. i would not use this amp straight without pedal help.
it is a loud sucker. a 40w version of this may be even better
the trebs can seem a bit sharp but i'm hoping to soften/round them off a bit with practice. good lows, nice reverb.
THERE AINT NO LIFE NOWHERE!
Mar 21st, 2007 03:08 PM Edit Profile
I adore my 410! It's a great amp that I can, without a doubt, frighten even the most viscious drummer! I love the distortion channels....more than enough for me! (no Death Metal here....just good ol' classic rock!) The clean channel, while not as pristine as a Twin, is very good also.
As far as the volume.....I practice at home at number 1. Any louder....the police get involved!
In a live situation.....I can't tell you how many people have come over to me asking me about my tone.....I just point towards the amp!!
Mar 22nd, 2007 02:13 PM Edit Profile
second impressions after band practice:
strong lead tones, more noticable as a mid, treb voicings. frequencys cut well through the other players, but i still want to tame the highs a little more. nice reverb.
tried the pre amp in outs and it had a problem procesing my pedal chain (wierd sounds) so i set up through main input and all was okay.
overall a good first outing. the cleans were clean and plenty strong.
Jul 18th, 2007 04:52 PM Edit Profile
I use the Deville 4x10 with a Radial Tonebone which gives me miles of overdrive but I could use it without. I got hooked on Fender tube amps after seeing Robery Cray live using a super reverb. I can't take it past 2 in my apartment. I think it has as much guts as my 300 watt line 6
Feb 16th, 2008 11:43 AM Edit Profile
I agree with what telegib has said above.
HOWEVER, a few weeks ago I had the chance to compare the Hot Rod seires amps against a brand new Bassman RI LTD. The Bassman simply blew them allout of the water. It was just superior in tone in all aspects.
Tne BMRI will be my next purchase, but I will still keep the Hot Rod Deluxe.
Feb 20th, 2008 04:49 AM Edit Profile
What did the BMRI have in tonal differences compared to the HRDx tone.
Just curious because I'm looking at buying another amp and keeping my HRDx too.
Feb 24th, 2008 09:26 AM Edit Profile
With just a short comparison using my Les Paul Std., the HRDx sounds honkier, whereas the BM has a more "woody" sound to it. Also, the highs on the BM were clearer and had more sparkle, not bright or edgy as some people characterize it. The BM just sounded more open, with better definition. Both shared, together with my Marshall JTM45 RI, a lot of bass, meaning that the position on the bass knob has to be kept around 1-3.
I also compared the BM with a TRRI and SRRI, and for my tastes(idonīt play blues, just classic rock) the BM was my choice.
CAVEAT: the BM was brand new, not broken in...and it still sounded better!
Mar 11th, 2008 10:24 AM Edit Profile
Great info. Thanks.
I'm just a dog in the road of life
Mar 27th, 2008 06:50 PM Edit Profile
I have had the same HRDLX for 12 years. I would have bought the Deville, but just didn't need it at the time.
It is a well made, solid, trustworthy amp. I know the knocks about drive channels, but if you tweek ever so lightly, breakup is more desireable and listenable, than the hornets next that lays beyond 2 or 3.
I have dimed it on several occasions and the sheer volume is too much, even for a 40 watt 1 speaker amp.
I will probably never need anything more powerful, ever.
Tucson, Arizona USA
Apr 24th, 2008 04:20 PM Edit Profile
Change out the preamp tubes in V2 & V3 from 12AX7 to 12AT7. It will make a huge difference in taming the distortion channels and you won't feel the need to use pedals.
nyc - usa
dont think twice its alright
May 8th, 2008 08:58 AM Edit Profile
I have had a deville 212 for 10 years, and it is a great sounding amp, especially for the money. If I ever got another amp, it would be a major upgrade because i dont think other amps come close in this price range.
I never use the drive channels, I dont like them. The amp takes pedals very well through the clean channel. My 50th Ann. Strat with an OCD sounds amazing through it.
I swapped out the 6L6's and put in JJ6V6's and adjusted the bias, and I like it more now. Lowers it to about 40-45 watts and lets me push the clean channel more without blowing my ear drums as much...
Northern CT - USA
"We're not University material."
Aug 29th, 2008 09:41 AM Edit Profile
I bought my 2x12 HR DeVille primarily for the clean channel tones. I don't use the drive channel at gigs. I use OD/Dist pedals thru the clean channel. The following pedals work extremely well with the Hot Rods (DeVille or Deluxe):
Radial Tonebone Hot British
Radial Tonebone American Classic
It is nice to know though that in a pinch I could use the drive channel if I needed to. Sometimes at band practice if I don't feel like hooking up my pedal board I'll just go straight into the amp and get all of my tones...clean and overdriven. We play mostly classic rock...Tom Petty, Steely Dan, ZZ Top, etc. As someone eluded to above, the drive channel in the Hot Rod series seems to be very usable when you're playing in a band context. The overdrive tones cut thru well for lead breaks. But when you listen to the drive channel by itself - without other instruments - it doesn't sound that good.
If you ever get the chance, listen to the sounds of any of the OD/Dist pedals above thru the clean channel of a Hot Rod and compare that tone to the tone of the Hot Rod's drive channel. Huge difference. The OCD sounds like it was made to use with the Hot Rod. Really solid.
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