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matt223

Canada

I'll be back...
Oct 13th, 2003 09:54 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I love this little amp. I love the simpleness of it. I like it around 4-6. The stock speaker seems a little harsh, it sounds alot better through my 1964 Standel, that has two Jenses C10R's in it. I wish it had a real jewel on it though, cause I'd change it to a blue one. I also wish the logo said "Fender-Pro Junior", not just "Fender". I've added another speaker jack, and removed the portion of the back panel where the speaker jacks are, for better access. I don't know what else to say, it's AWESOME!!!!

qmoder

United States

Dec 13th, 2003 01:46 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I have one too and its a fine little amp. A few things that maybe some tech head could tell us how to do. Is one how to put in a standby switch. Two how to put in a bright deep switch. Last but not least how to put in jeweled lamp. Like you I'd like to be able to change lamps like on any other fender amp. I like the bright deep switch as the amp can be a little to dark with humbucker guitars and the single coils would be fine on deep just as it is now. The standby switch would no dout no help with tube life, stage noise, and having to wait on the amp to warm up after a set. We have just made the perfect Pro jr.

Steve Hebert

USA

Feb 18th, 2004 06:13 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Also have a Pro Jr. Using it for harp and I love it more and more each day. I have done a few simple mods - tube swap and Jenson P10R.
This is my 6th Amp and I wish it had been my first.
If you are looking for a great simple easy to carry harp amp - you can't lose with this.

OASYSCO
Contributing Member

USA

Feb 20th, 2004 09:04 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Me too, me too.

Actually I picked one up due to its size and weight in anticipation of upcoming back surgery and my in ability to lug my DRRI to gigs in the near future.

It worked great live and when we got there, the sounds system the venue was supposed to supply didn't have enough inputs for us to mic my amp. So there I was, completely unmic'd with a 15W amp. worked out OK, but I wouldn't want to repeat that event, if I can help it.

I tried putting my Weber Ca-10 in there, but it was too big. I have a 10" jensen I could try, too, but I stuck with the stock speaker for now.

i like the amp clean no effects for jazz. for rock/blues i front end with a Digitech GNX3.

Still liek the clarity of my DRRI better, but the PJ is an excellent sub. And the cab is strong enouhg for my 180lbs to sit on as I did on that gig due to my back.

My website

(This message was last edited by OASYSCO at 01:24 PM, Oct 20th, 2004)

Ellrod

Canada

Mar 15th, 2004 05:51 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The only drawback to my PJ is that it is a little buzzy. Should this be expected? Does it go away? Does it get worse?

Otherwise,I'm very happy. Between my PJ and new Vintage Vibe pups on my MIM Strat, and raising the action a smidge, my set up has a whole new and very much improved sound. Better sound = more enjoyment playing = better playing = better sound etc. Result: everything is looking up.

goldtopguitar

Fla

Mar 18th, 2004 07:36 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Ellrod what do you mean by buzzy,( speaker or tube rattle) . Also check on back of amp the chrome pro junior label might be buzzing if so just take a piece of a match book cover and wedge it between amp and label. It also could be the springs that hold the EL 84s in place. Try changing places with the 12AX7s that may work.

carsten
Contributing Member

princetones/germany

it´s more like deluxes now, really
Apr 5th, 2004 10:30 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

hi ellrod!
yes, mine is pretty buzzy as well ...
which means, it hums noticeably louder than all my other amps - even with nothing plugged in and running idle ...
i´ve tried different pre-amp tubes and they helped *some*. i´d be happy to get some tips on this as well.
for the good news: i´ve done some intense a/b-ing with the pj and my ´64 brown princeton, and the pj gets amazingly close to that vintage fender-jewel for under $300!
cheers all - C.

Kelsey

Memphis, TN, USA

Apr 5th, 2004 03:58 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

There was a PJ thread (like the BJ mafia) running in the new Fender amp section (1985 and later) that includes some tips for quieting this little beast. My 1998 PJ is pretty noisy at idle, too, much more so than my vintage amps or my new Orange AD15. There is also a PTP wiring mod that has been discussed recently at the TDPRI board. If I could quiet mine down, then it would quickly become a favorite again. I have been considering a search for a brown Fender Princeton, so the possibility of cleaning up the PJ and landing in that territory is very exciting. Thanks for the info, Carsten!



GTRBellz
Contributing Member

USA/Boston

Blues, Stranded Jam Style!
Apr 26th, 2004 08:26 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Hi everyone
i just bought my pro junior from GC. The speaker sounds as if there is a rip in it, wheni play notes on the high E 15 frets or above, it seems to break up and vibrate.

I have asked many in different posts, so ill try in here...i just bought the amp last week, should i just return it for another? what is evryones opinion on that? thanks for everyones help.

astro

SoFla, USA

Apr 27th, 2004 07:27 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

If the noise you refer to is a "hum" even with the volume off, try removing the top, center screw on the back panel. There is an issue with the screw making contact with the shielding plate inside the chasis and pushing into the Vol & Tone pots. Does the trick for mine.

(This message was last edited by astro at 07:29 PM, Apr 27th, 2004)

astro

SoFla, USA

Apr 27th, 2004 07:27 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

BTW, I eventually replaced the screw with a shorter one!

(This message was last edited by astro at 07:30 PM, Apr 27th, 2004)

stevedenver

usa

Jul 16th, 2004 11:23 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

i liked my 96' tweed PJ quite a bit-a bit dark with humbuckers better with single coils-

it always sounded a bit boxy and flat-and as noted, buzzy

it was rebuilt into an 18 marshall using the same trannys and rectifier, now has a real jewel and PTP wiring-and i run it through an avatar 2x12 with celestions-you cannot imagine the improvement

-i believe the major drawback is the speaker and cabinet-once you get a bit of 'bounce' or resonance in a larger cab, and a bit more bass with 12"s, its quite a little rocker-rivals a 5e3 in many ways

stratman55

Pennsylvania

Aug 28th, 2004 01:20 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

GTRBellz - take it back, it sounds as if something's amiss.

I have two Pro Jrs, both from the mid '90s; a tweed and a blonde. They have different speakers (one has a disc-shaped magnet and the other more a cylinder with a horseshoe-shaped piece covering it), but sound nearly identical.

They're great little amps. I did have some problems initially with the input jack on one of them (as did a friend who also owns one), but have had no issues for about 8 years now with either.

They're loud enough for band practice and even small gigs as long as your drummer isn't John Bonham. For louder situations, I've run both in stereo, which is a great sound.

A couple years ago I came across a used Trace Elliot Velocette, which has the same tubes and a 10" speaker. A/B'ing it with the PJ, I was amazed at how boxy and small the PJ sounded by comparison! Even weirder was the fact that the Velocette's cabinet is not as deep as the PJ's by a couple inches.

The PJ pulled ahead, though, when I cranked the amps up. While the Trace's clean tone is superb, it sort of farts out at higher volume settings, while the PJ remains focused and tight all the way to '11'. And such great overdrive!

The PJs are also wonderful recording amps - in this area they also rise above the Velocette. I have some decent amps in my studio, including a great '57 Deluxe and a '61 Concert, but my first choice is usually the humble Pro Junior.

I'd recommend this amp to anyone without reservation.

El Kabong

Point Pleasant, NJ

A-Ahhl do the thinnin' around here!
Sep 1st, 2004 12:54 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

My Pro Jr. is "buzzy" too, but it appears to be a result of that spring-loaded bracket that holds the tubes in. I took it off and the buzzing went away. I would like to replace all four tube sockets with the type that have the tube covers; that would solve the problem, while still preventing the tubes from falling out.

I also need to replace the power cord. The previous owner apparently thought the buzzing was grounding hum, and therefore pulled the grounding prong out of the cord. I guess I have some work to do on my Pro Jr. then. Shouldn't be too difficult, though.

(This message was last edited by El Kabong at 12:55 PM, Sep 1st, 2004)

dp67

Australia

....play tastefully.......
Sep 23rd, 2004 02:01 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Regarding buzzing etc. on your Pro Junior,
It could be one of these's very common problems:

1) Noisy valve, usually one or both of the two 12ax7's (on your right if standing behind the amp). They need to be held down to quite them, and you need to be creative, I tied a bit of thin copper wire around my noisy 12ax7 and tied it to the back amp cover. That worked for me. Other's have simply replaced them with new valve's, which by my research has worked for some but not for others

2) The top middle screw that attaches the back cover to the amp is sometime's too long and touches the volume pot and create's a hum. Unscrew it a little or remove it.

3) The metal plate on the back of the amp which say's "Pro Junior" etc sometime's rattle's. Wedge some thick paper behind it.

4) The spring's on the clamp which hold's the two taller valves (el84's)can sometime's rattle, again be creative.

Having gotten that of my chest I want to say how much I love this amp!!
It's portable, can be used for almost any sized gig and rehearsal, it's an amazing recording amp and it sounds great and looks great!!
Sure it has it's quirks but for 2 to 3 hundred dollars its amazing value. It's sure to become a modern Fender classic (i'd say it already is).

Highly recommended for anyone, pro or beginner ( I wish I had this when I was starting out!!)

If you've got some spare cash, buy up and enjoy!!

(This message was last edited by dp67 at 02:03 AM, Sep 23rd, 2004)

prolux
Contributing Member
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USA/NC

Oct 23rd, 2004 08:25 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"The speaker sounds as if there is a rip in it, wheni play notes on the high E 15 frets or above, it seems to break up and vibrate."

If your volume is up into the breakup point (particularly with humbuckers)that "ripping" sound is normal.

t3xaco

San francisco ca

Jan 30th, 2005 12:29 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I love my PJ too! I was just wondering what speaker is in it. I have 1st year production tweed made in brea CA. The speaker is blue with that metal bracket over the magnet. Other than that I see no markings at all.

carsten
Contributing Member
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brown super/germany

soundslikehome
Feb 13th, 2005 12:58 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

hi t3xaco!
i have one just like it! these speaker´s were made by eminence and were intended to copy the early jensen p10r-alnico speakers. they´re probably close to the legend alnico 10"s still available today.
they were used in earlier bassman reissues, blues devilles, custom vibroluxes and vibro-kings as well. fender chose to go with the jensen reissue speakers after they became available again in the late 90´s.
cheers - C.

nejevolnit19

australia

Sep 9th, 2005 05:23 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

dp67 how do u take d valves off?its my first tube amp thats why im clueless

nejevolnit19

australia

Sep 9th, 2005 05:37 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

tried eveything..except for swapping tubes..which i dont know how..and im scared dat someting might happen to the amp..well its ok for now but im having a gig on saturday nex week..can anyone help me with this?

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