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Stan Malinowski

USA

Oct 6th, 2003 10:57 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I hope this isn't a stupid question....

Are all CS Relics before a certain date "Cunetto Relics"? I recently just purchased a Strat Relic (Serial #1901)with the COA dated May 1997 and am curious if this is one of the "Cunetto's".

Thanks,
Stan

(This message was last edited by Stan Malinowski at 10:58 AM, Oct 6th, 2003)

Butterscotch
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UK

Teller of Tall Tales!
Oct 6th, 2003 11:02 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I would say, most definitely "Cunetto Era."

telesforengland

UK

Oct 6th, 2003 01:33 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

100% Cunetto!

scottyranks
Contributing Member

Southern Maryland

Oct 6th, 2003 02:00 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Well, I think he should show us a few pictures of this guitar before we as a group give a pronouncement...

Scott T.

Stan Malinowski

USA

Oct 6th, 2003 02:54 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Being new here, can you directly post pictures or do I need to supply a link to a photo hosting service like Yahoo? Any particular pictures that would be useful?

As I understand it, Vince Cunetto did not directly work for Fender but the original Relics were outsourced to his shop? Just want to get my facts straight!

Are the "Cunetto Era" Relics worth more than their modern counterparts?

Stan Malinowski

USA

Oct 6th, 2003 03:25 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Here is a picture of the front body...

CS Relic S/N 1901

blues321

USA

Oct 6th, 2003 04:11 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Hey Stan, does your Certificate say "1960 Relic Stratocaster" or "60's Relic Stratocaster"?
Does anyone else know if any of the "Cunetto" Relics had certificates in 1997 that said "1960 Relic Stratocaster"?

Stan Malinowski

USA

Oct 6th, 2003 04:15 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The COA says "1960's Relic Stratocaster".

blues321

USA

Oct 6th, 2003 04:17 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Interesting...
The reason I ask is that I'm looking at a 1997 Cunetto Relic for sale and the Certificate says "1960 Relic Stratocaster", but I thought all 97's said "60's" or "1960's"...this one simply says "1960" like the new ones. Was the Custom Shop just inconsistent with this detail or what?

JoeM

Birmingham, MI

Oct 6th, 2003 06:07 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

2 other features that usually identifies a Cunetto guitar are a stamped in CS logo on the back of the headstock instead of a decal and a 9.5 radius instead of 7.25. You're right about Vince's work; Fender outsourced the original relics to his shop; his people reliced the parts and sent them back to Fender.

As far as them being worth more than the Time Machine models.....some say they are "better" and therefore worth more. Others like the TM models the best. The TM models are more "correct" in shape and other specs. I've got both and I like them both. Obviously, the Cunettos are a finite bunch, there ain't gonna be any more so maybe, someday, they will be worth more than the current models. I see Cunetto era relics being sold for $1200-$1400 all the time. Same for the TM models.

Enjoy your new guitar; it's a good one....

Stan Malinowski

USA

Oct 6th, 2003 06:32 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Thanks Joe! It indeed does have a stamped CS logo on the headstock and a 9.5" board radius. The flatter radius and the larger neck carve are very appealing to me and I am VERY happy with the guitar.

I was less than thriled with the original pickups but replaced them with a set of Fralin Vintage Hots and now the guitar sounds like the Strat I always wanted. I must admit I had, for the most part given up on Fender and migrated to a couple of Grosh Retros and a couple of Anderson Classics. This Relic Strat has now become a PERMANENT axe in my arsenal!

Thanks for everyone's input!

Stan

scottyranks
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Southern Maryland

Oct 6th, 2003 08:09 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I asked for the pics cuz I loves to see these babies; it was pretty clear what you had. Yours looks very fine indeed. I have a '97 Mary Kaye style CS 54 relic and its a real keeper. Hope you enjoy yours even half as much.

Scott T.

Coma

Sweden

Oct 7th, 2003 01:45 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I picked up a 96 Cunetto Nocaster a month ago. After a pro set-up it's the best Tele(sorry Nocaster!) I've ever played. I have some pics of this baby on the link below...

Some pics of my

jvr
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USA

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Oct 7th, 2003 12:52 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I find this whole Cunetto Era thing pretty funny. Not that they aren't nice guitars but really its strictly limited to the finish, and only relics if I'm not mistaken.
No disrespect to Vince but why does he get the credit for "the best Tele(sorry Nocaster!) I've ever played"?

Mr Relic

USA

Oct 7th, 2003 01:36 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I don't think he's getting complete credit for them, though many would say that the Custom Shop's overall quality was perhaps better around this timeframe. And I do think Vince did a far more accurate job of "relicing" the guitars...much more authentic looking.
I'm really jonesing for a Cunetto 60's Relic Strat or a Nocaster...but they're hard to find. People must be snatching them up for a reason!

Coma

Sweden

Oct 7th, 2003 01:46 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

There's something to what you say jvr. What Vince did was relicing. The guitar was still made by the Fender CS. Still they are great guitars (really great!) and I guess people refer to Cunetto as an era of guitars just like pre-cbs fenders or whatever. not that the current nocasters are good guitars. the ones i've tried has been nothing short of amazing...

another question...i took the pick-guard off just to see what's under the hood. The guitar has an ink stamp that said D.Boulanger..is this normal :o)

Butterscotch
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UK

Teller of Tall Tales!
Oct 7th, 2003 02:15 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I've got the same name stamped on the spring claw in my '96 '50s Relic. Duane Boulanger worked in the Custom Shop at around this time and he did final set up and tune/test.

brotherlwey

UK

Oct 8th, 2003 05:44 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Hey Blues321,

I have a '98 Cunetto 60's strat, but the COA (signed by John Page) says '1960 Stratocaster' so I thin there must have just been a bit of inconsistency.

Rally
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FL, USA

Oct 16th, 2003 06:49 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

This one appears to be a Cunetto Relic at least the back of head stock is stamped.
Seller states 7.5" neck radius tho.
No connection to seller!

click

Eric G.

Rocky Mountains

Tag! You're it.
Oct 17th, 2003 02:36 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Vince,
Is there more to your website besides the guitar with the little callouts by the features?
I was trying to find a link to an on-line catalog or something like that.



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