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telegeezer

usa

Nov 15th, 2013 04:13 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Pro Jr in a Mojotone tweed Deluxe size cab.They have all the specs and can build a Pro Jr cab just like the Tonedog version. Did a preliminary study by hooking up the Pro Jr to my 5E3. Sounds great,plus a great platform for my Maxon 808,Boss 63 Reverb,Boss trem,and Cry Baby pedals when appropriate.

(This message was last edited by telegeezer at 10:06 PM, Nov 15th, 2013)

carsten

on the rhine

Nov 20th, 2013 12:34 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Hi guys!

I´m back in the club - for the 6st/7th time around or so ;-)

I figured I needed a nice and light back-up amp for my ´66 Deluxe and the Excelsior just didn´t cut it. It didn´t pack the punch I need, plus, it´s on the big/heavy side for a "little" back-up amp.

Sold the Excelsior and got hold of a (plain black) PJ for a mere $20 more, and - apart of the hiss that they throw in for free - I´m happy (again)!
Any time I plug in I´m amazed that it sounds so much bigger than it looks! I even like the stock-speaker for now!

cheers - C.


P.S.:
Like I said, I must have had 7 PJ´s over the last 15 years, and for some reason I got rid of them all. After a while I always found myself wondering WHY did I let them go - and any time I get one again I remember it was because of the HISS ;-)

Now, I´ll try to hold on to this one for the tone - until I stumble upon another Tweed-Model ;-)




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Nov 23rd, 2013 07:29 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I think in years to come people will speak of these amps even more highly (like the old Ampeg Jet-12Ds) but there will always be the ones that claim it's too 'boxy' sounding.

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North Gnarlyington

Dec 21st, 2013 07:43 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

^ I think how "boxy" it sounds is very dependent on positioning. Mine seems to sound the best when placed on the floor on a piece of carpet, with the back not against a surface, but not floating all by itself either. The whole thing just gets fuller as it resonates with the adjacent surfaces, with the carpet soaking up some of the hardness.

carsten

on the rhine

Dec 21st, 2013 09:27 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Hi guys!

Seems like it´s Pro-Junior-time for me ;-)

Only three weeks after I got the black one I stumbled upon a close-to-mint ´94 PJ in TWEED - Blue AlNiCo included!
The price was the same as the black one, so I couldn´t pass...
I think I need to unload the black one again ;-)

Both amps sound remarkably close with the tweed being a tad "sweeter" and the black one being a tad louder and more "honkin´" - which, I´m sure, is down to the different speakers.

And oh, the tweed one HISSES less!

A happy PJ-camper for now ;-)


happy holidays everyone!

- C.



t3xaco

San francisco ca

Dec 24th, 2013 08:41 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I just put the new JJ EL84-4 they 25% less headroom and distort at lower volumes. However at 7-8 on the volume it has a sweet distorted almost Freddy King sound to it. I changed from Mullards which I also like that are very distorted at those volumes. Just a better alternative when playing in smaller rooms if you need a little more "character" at lower volumes.

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leaf nation

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Jan 25th, 2014 06:42 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I just put in the EL-844's too. I definately hear a difference! I can crunch sooner with a Strat now./


fendrguitplayr
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Greater Boston

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Jan 27th, 2014 12:01 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The perfect grab n go amp, IMO.

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Jan 27th, 2014 12:05 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I'd really like to use my Pro Jr in my home studio but the dang thing is pretty loud and not safe for my make shift ISO box. The EL844's sound like an interesting option.

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leaf nation

the popcorn kid
Feb 1st, 2014 12:06 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

littleuch, give them a try! I recently swapped the el 84 for el 844 and it IS different. This amp is LOUD to begin with. I saw Jeff Beck and Warren Haynes both use them live....

YMMV but it is cheap enough to try. I have all JJ's and the crunch definately starts earlier with the el844s.



johnhe

Northern Ireland

Mar 10th, 2014 11:06 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Hey Carsten - I've always enjoyed your posts. Glad to see you found a tweed Pro Jnr - they really are very cool, and also great sounding amps.

carsten

on the rhine

Mar 11th, 2014 01:27 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Hi johnhe!

Thanks for your kind words!

And it got even better!
Only a couple of weeks after I got the Tweedy, I came across a very well-made Tweed-Deluxe Clone (by a german mfg called "Cream") at a very nice price. I have to say that this newest addition to the arsenal overshadowed the new PJ quite a bit ;-)

I´ll still keep the PJ.
I use it at home with an attenuator which knocks down the volume AND the hiss - and, like fendrguitplayr said, it´s the perfect grab-and-go amp!

cheers - C.


rotren

Alberta Canada

Suhr Classic + Mack Heatseeker 18 head
Mar 16th, 2014 09:00 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I played mine tweed Pro Jr through my Traynor 2x12 with Greenbacks yesterday - boy does it ever sound huge!

fluids

Australia

Ocean Sounds
Apr 25th, 2014 07:47 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I picked up a nice clean (used) 2013 PJrIII to run along side my 1995 Tweed PJr .... To say there is a difference between them is an understatement !

The new III has literally no hiss ... even playing with the amp controls both at 12 and working the guitar vol+tone to taste (the tweed is a noise factory at 12 if your not playing or don't roll the guitar vol' to zero when you stop playing). It's BIG fat and stays clean until around 6+ ... the tweed is gritty at around 4.5 and breaks up early. Me thinks the newer III's speaker needs alot more breaking in ... both amps are stock. Haven't looked at the III's tubes yet (factory issue I suspect) and the Tweed has some old Boogie 12ax7's and a pair of EL84M's (all 10+yrs old) ...

Who'd have thunk ... a QUIET PJr !! ;-)

... loving it!


catnineblue

LA , Calif

Jul 20th, 2014 04:48 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

In 1994 I got my first Pro Jr tweed with the blue alnico speaker and loved it.

Then I went nuts and decided I needed more power so I traded the pro jr and two older SF Champs I had even for a 1994 blues deluxe at a local guitar shop . Huge mistake , not that I didn't like the blues tweed deluxe but it was just to loud before it sounded good.

I sold the blues deluxe and got a crate VC 15 watt with reverb sounded good and was used but in nice condition . Then at the same shop they had a slightly used 2001 Pro Jr in Black so I got that one.

The tweed one had some tube noise all I did was swap the output tubes and it was fine. The 2001 black one I changed all the 4 tubes JJ's and it sounded much better noise gone . Then I felt the blue frame alnico sounded better so I got one and put it in the 2001 Pro Jr it only sounded better cranked , smoother breakup . I tired a eminence red coat copper head but didn't like it at all .

To be honest the Pro Jr is a nice amp both of mine were made in USA but I just didn't like the PC mounted pots and tubes , they just seemed to be looking for trouble . On the Tweed deluxe they mount the pots and jacks to the chassis as well as to the PC board.

I do miss the Pro Jr's I had great little amps and simple . I was always going to build one point to point never did. I only paid $200 for the 2001 black one and it was like new but the owner of the shop just put it up at that price.

I guess I'm just old school and went on to build my own point to point tube amps and I'm happy with the ones I have now.

Now the Pro Jr has been ruined with the black panel hot rod crap. Fender should have left well enough alone.

I built a SF Champ copy and one day since the chassis is a narrow panel tweed style from Allen Amps from 2007 I may build a pine Pro Jr type cab for it and do the black or tweed covering.

6 watts is all I can use here now and it has a ten in it. Pro Jr's did sound good on low settings . I just don't like working on PC boards , I don't like the design but loved the look and sound.

Chris Greene
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Feb 11th, 2016 04:53 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I was searching google to see what's been said as of late about these little amps and one of the links was to this thread.

I have an August 1994 tweed Pro Jr. that I bought from a guy on the old TDP in the late 90's. When I got it, the handle was almost about to rip through and the speaker was shot. He made good and had a new blue speaker sent to me and I got a handle a couple years later from Fender along with a new top panel. I must have replaced the tubes at some point because they're RCA and GE. I also decided to lacquer it with amber shellac. Looks great like an old tweed Fender Champ.

I haven't played through it in some time but I brought it in from the studio and played my ash cherryburst parts '52 Tele and JV Strat through it straight and then added my Korg PX3 processor to play with some effects and a backing track. Geez, I forgot how cool this little amp is. Don't know about the new ones but these early USA versions are the shiz.

You can see it behind a '57 AV Strat in this photo. The two guitars I used today are in the front center.

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johnhe

Northern Ireland

Feb 22nd, 2016 08:22 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

When at larger gigs or even a rehearsals in my music room, I play my Pro Jnr through an Engl 2x10 cab. It sounds fabulous, and has plenty of bass.

However, at church, I play my other Pro Jnr just on its own. It still sounds great, but those little cabs don't produce much bass.

Does anyone know if re-cabbing the Pro Jnr into a larger cab would add more bass to the sound? Perhaps using a 1 x 12?

I don't want to spend much, so I'd prefer to keep the current Eminence Ramrod 10" speaker. Might be better just buying a bigger amp, but I don't need more volume, and I love the sound of the Pro Jnr.

What do you guys think?

(This message was last edited by johnhe at 10:25 AM, Feb 22nd, 2016)

carsten

on the rhine

Feb 22nd, 2016 10:11 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Hi johnhe!

I´m sure you could have a little mod done to the circuit to give you a bit more bass. Search out someone who knows this stuff - it should be pretty simple.

Otoh, I know someone who just built a 2x10"-cab for a Blues Junior, and it worked out great! He made it along the lines of a Tweed "Super-Amp".
He used my own BJ for a template, and my amp into his 2x10"-cab has TONS of bass - more than I´d ever need ;-)

cheers - C.

johnhe

Northern Ireland

Sep 5th, 2016 03:09 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Had a recent church gig where our music team performed at another local church. I ran my Pro Jnr through my 2x10 Engl Cab. The sound was absolutely heavenly.

Are we allowed to post photos or links to photos on here?

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z210/hegarty_john/IMG_8097_zps2iiggnta.jpg

catnineblue

LA , Calif

I try my best
Oct 19th, 2016 06:26 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I wish I kept the 94 tweed with the blue frame and changed the sockets like some do to real sockets and hard wired rather then ribbon.

To be honest I had two SF Champs at the same time as I said above a few posts. They were just as loud even with the stock fender alnico 8" . Later I got a 73 SF Champ and recapped and put in a Weber sig8s alnico . It was different than the Pro Jr yet I liked it better.

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