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FDP Forum / FDP Unplugged - Acoustic Instruments / Rainsong guitars? You Played One Yet?


Joplin,Mo.on Route66

"play when I can, work when I should"
Oct 27th, 2002 07:14 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I remember reading som reports about them a couple years ago. Not well recieved then.
But, I went into a store yesterday, and the salesman forces this slightly store damaged (from getting dropped) Rainsong WS1000 model into my hand, and says,"Just play it a while".
He said it was a $2200. guitar, that they were trying to get $700. for. The damage had NO effect on the sound what-so-ever.
I gotta tell ya. Except for the slightly higher action than I like, this new model sounded Fantastic!
I kinda also dig the shark inlays.
Might go back and get it.

(This message was last edited by dsixpack at 07:37 AM, Oct 27th, 2002)


Joplin,Mo.on Route66

"play when I can, work when I should"
Oct 28th, 2002 04:48 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

So what is it? Are most people just scared of an instrument not made of wood? I have read the testimonials, but they could have been paid endorsments. I've never seen anyone with one, but DANG! They do sound fantastic.


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Eastern Mass

I need a vacation
Oct 28th, 2002 06:24 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I posted a thread a while back about the Auditorium model. I played one and I thought it was fantastic. I like the sound, the looks and the fact that it's not wood, but I couldn't handle the price. Resale value just isn't there at that price point. I got a price of $1,700 new.

I wouldn't buy a broken one for $700 either. Selling a used Rainsong at a decent price would be hard enough, but selling a broken one would probably be impossible. I just don't think the market is there and I don't like broken stuff anyway. Dead money.

The Creeper


Oct 30th, 2002 03:06 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I played one and found it too "perfect" sounding, if that makes any sense. The proper balance of highs, mids, and bass were there, but it didn't generate the complex overtones that one would find in a wood instrument of the same value.

My thought was that maybe they're good amplified, though I personally don't think ANY undersaddle piezo pup sounds good at all. If you want to play acoustic in a loud rock band, maybe give it a try amplified. I am quite certain they could handle some serious road abuse.



Nov 1st, 2002 10:30 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Rainsong's are fantastic. They will be a big deal in the future. I'd snap up the slightly damaged one for $700 in a minute if I had the cash. Good guitars that stay rock solid in tune. Different yes but I have a video tape of testimonials from alot of artists and they are all positive.
My .02 cents worth.

Buy it!


continental american

and just what is a 'viscous coupling'..?
Nov 2nd, 2002 02:39 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

it would make a great 'beater' gtr, that's for sure. take it to the beach, not worry about humidity, a great guitar for a little one or to keep in the living room, garage, etc. sounds like crap (as stated above, no overtones or harmonic richness) but what do you expect from man-made materials on an analog instrument?


Joplin,Mo.on Route66

"play when I can, work when I should"
Nov 4th, 2002 05:25 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Oh No! Pepler, This one didn't sound like crap. Those were the first one's. The new models have been improved greatly. It's just, I haven't talked myself into "Needing" it yet.

And yeah, there are urban legends already about guys losing a paddle while canoeing or something, and being saved by their Rainsong.


Southern California

Mike Gilles
Nov 6th, 2002 05:28 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I bought my WS-1000 in March of 2001. I fly Citation and Lear Jets for a living and needed a guitar that could not only hold up to the rigors of daily travel, but to be able to withstand extremely cold temperatures. Most of the time, there is not enough room inside the cabin for my guitar so it has to be stowed in the outside baggage hold where the temperatures are regularly 40 to 50 degrees below zero for as long as five hours at a time. I spoke directly with Ray Allen, RainSongís marketing and customer service honcho, who said they would stand behind their warrantee under those conditions. Iím told that the carbon graphite compound used in its construction is shipped to the factory in dry ice. I am here to tell you that the carbon graphite construction holds up so well that I donít even detune the instrument prior to loading and when I get to my hotel room, itís still in perfect tune. I am careful not to open the case until it reaches room temperature so that the condensation doesnít affect the electronics. I brought the guitar in to the Woodinville, Washington factory a couple of months ago where Ray Allen and Ashvin Coomar, the president and CEO, looked it over. They were very pleased to find that Ė after more than 50 flights -- the instrument looked showroom new with just a tiny scratch in the finish (which Ray promptly buffed out). I must warn you that heat is still the enemy of this guitar, and like any high-end guitar, you donít want to leave it in the trunk of your car on a hot summer day. The series 3 and 4 guitars are cured at a higher temperature and these are the preferred instruments.
As far as playability is concerned, the set up from the factory is as good as those from Taylor, meaning they are comfortably low without any string buzz. My WS-1000 has the 1 ĺĒ nut width but the neck is thin enough that many electric guitar players find it comfortable. And what about the sound? I brought my RainSong to several of the Acoustic Guitar Magazine open mic gatherings last year and many felt its sound was one of the best there. In Livermoore, California at the Fretted Friends event, everyone commented on how good it sounded when plugged in. It has the same on-board Fishman blender that Taylor uses with an under saddle pick up and inside microphone. In Valparaiso, Indiana at the Front Porch Music gathering, it was also very well received. One very accomplished player who owns a fleet of fine all-wood guitars, said, ďI really didnít want to like this guitar.Ē It was hard to get it back from him so that I could take my turn at the mic.
A fine all-wood guitar is known for not only the sounds it projects, but for the sounds it absorbs. I own a Collings D-2H and D-1A for flat-picking along with my Martin HD-28, a Lowden F-32 for fingerstyle along with my Martin 000-28EC, so I can appreciate the rich sound that those great guitars can make. When I play my all-wood guitars I hear warmth. When I play the RainSong I hear a slightly more bell-like tone where the highs shimmer. Thatís not to say they donít have any warmth! Iím talking subtleties here. When you think of the RainSong WS-1000, think of a piano. When you envision the jumbo JM 1000, think Grand Piano. I know of several artists who are more impressed with the plugged in sound than unplugged. I needed a guitar that could withstand extreme cold and could handle both the subtleties of fingerstyle and the demands of flatpicking. My WS-1000 not only does that but it has the playability and tone equal to many high-end instruments.
I donít work for RainSong, nor do they pay me for an endorsement, but I can highly recommend their instruments. I bought mine from a shop in Kentucky sight unseen. If you are interested in getting the deal I got, email me and Iíll be happy to refer you to a shop that will sell one for a $100 or more below anyone elseís price.
Mike Gilles@aol.com


Kalamazoo, MI

Nov 11th, 2002 09:30 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I played one of the Jumbo models and one of the dreadnoughts at ELderly Inst. and was immediately amazed!! my friend forced me to play the thing.. i thought it was a little strange looking with the carbon fiber material...i played it and WOW it just played and sounded wonderful.. Then i started to really like it (the carbon fiber material was "bookmatched" if you know what i mean) it was incredibly well built and once i got over the "Space age" look of the thing i loved it.

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