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White Lightning

USA

Feb 16th, 2000 09:43 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Model: 65 Deluxe Reverb-Amp
Type: PR 239
SN: AC 025837
Purchased: February 2000

This Amp is billed by fender as "The Club Master...For Rock, Country or Blues players that want a lower Wattage amp they can turn all the way up, and dig down deep into the power amp".
After putting this amp to the test for only a few weeks, I can say that I am convinced that Fender has a winner here.

I must confess that I am a fan of Blackface era Fender amps. I love the look as well as the tone. The carefully reproduced cosmetics of this amp are astonishing. They went so far as to include a ground switch on the back panel. The switch is present for historical correctness only, since the amp is equiped with a three-pronged plug. Nevertheless, I found this to be a nice touch.
Looking at this amp it is easy to imagine that you've taken a trip back in time. This is what the original amps looked like back in 1965. The only thing missing is the smell of freshly cut pine. Sadly, because of the rising prices of lumber, the cabinets are made out of plywood on the reissue amps to keep costs down. I would like to see fender offer pine cabinets as an option. For those of you who do prefer pine, there are other companies who offer replacement cabinets made from your choice of wood.
The amp also differs from the original in that it is manufactured with a Printed Circuit Board (PCB), rather than point-to-point(PTP)hand wiring in the signal path. The debate of which is better or worse rages on, with the two opposing camps deadlocked in a seemingly endless arguement.
I beleive the listener (you) should decide. Never let anyone tell you what sounds good and what doesn't. I have been playing for 11 years, and I've been serious about tone from the start. I have heard great sounding PCB amps, and poor sounding PTP amps, the way an amp sounds involves a lot more than its signal path.

I tested the Deluxe Reverb with a '98 CS 60's Relic Strat, a '93 CS '54 Reissue Strat, and a '98 G&L ASAT Jr. The tone the amp produces is simply wonderful. The clean sound doesn't color the tone of the guitar, it allows the guitar to speak in it's own unique voice.

I first plugged into input 1 on the vibrato channel. This input allows the most gain and treble to be present in your tone. The vibrato channel also allows you to experience the amazing reverb and tremelo effect this amp has. The reverb is one of the deepest I've heard. The tremelo is not the best, but it is useable.
Input 1 sounds very bright and I found it was neccessary to roll the treble down quite a bit. However, the brightness of this input will subside substantially after the speaker has had time to break in. Plugging into input 2 on the vibrato channel reduces the gain about 6db, and to my ear, produces a more throaty tone, without so much treble.
On the normal channel, input 1 has a nice, meaty tone, not quite as bright as the vibrato channel.
And again, input 2 reduces the gain about 6db. For practicing at home at low volume, I found with the amp volume at 3, plugged into input 2 of the normal channel, I can get a nice thick tone at a reasonable level. In fact, I recommend experimenting with all the inputs, and the tone control settings. There are a lot of sonic possibilities waiting to be discovered in this amp.

I A/B'd this amp with two original Deluxe Reverbs, one a '64, the other a '69, and I
prefer the reissue. I'm sure there may be a better sounding original out there somewhere,
but my point is this Amp is a great sounding amp that can be purchased just about anywhere without too much worry over weather or not you found a "good" one.

I have a collection of vintage fender amps. But, I don't have a vintage Deluxe Reverb. I bought this amp instead of a vintage amp because I feel it really captures the sound of the original, in a more affordable, very reliable package.

I recommend this amp to anyone looking to capture that magic Fender Blackface tone.

I'll update this post as I spend more time with this amp. In the meantime I welcome other opinions.

Lightnin'

carsten

germany

Feb 17th, 2000 01:47 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

yes, i´ll take the deluxe reverb, too!
cheers - C.

blair

USA

Feb 17th, 2000 07:29 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Good review, Lightnin'.

I played one a few weeks ago and was very, very impressed. I finally orderred one last week. It was a toss-up as to whether to fix the AC on the old '72 Corvette or order the Deluxe Reverb RI. Guess which won! aaaaaargh, GAS!

Hammer on........Blair>

White Lightning

USA

Feb 22nd, 2000 07:58 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Update on DRRI:

I recently replaced the stock speaker in my Deluxe Reverb RI. I put a Kendrick Brownframe speaker in it's place.

Let me tell you what a great difference this has made in the sound of this amp.

The big complaint about the DRRI, or so I've read, is the inherent brightness of the amp. While I did notice that the treble was a bit much with the stock speaker, I found it was easy to control with the tone control settings adjusted properly.

I first discovered Kendrick Brownframe speakers when I was looking for replacements for my '65 Pro Reverb. These speakers sound like they are thirty years old out of the box. They have a nice mellow, warm tone at low volume, but when you dig in they sound huge, like a cello or something. They somehow eliminate the peircing treble while retaining all the classic Fender chime on the high-end.

I've had these speakers in my Pro Reverb for two years, and they sound amazing. I'll go to my grave with this speaker in my Deluxe Reverb. As good as they sound in my Pro, I beleive that these speakers were made for the Deluxe Reverb!
My wife, who has never said anything to me about my tone in the seven years I've known her, commented to me about how much better the Deluxe sounds after I replaced the speaker.

If you own a Deluxe reverb of any vintage, you owe it to yourself to give these a listen.

Thanks for letting me share my opinion with you. I don't get to talk about these things with my wife. ;)

Lightnin'

MJ

FDPGF / Virginia (USA)

Feb 22nd, 2000 07:54 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Lightnin', excellent review! I have the DRRI as well, and am equally pleased with it. I agree with your comments about input 2 on the reverb channel; I stay plugged in there most of the time at home. Overall, this amp just has a great tone, and is very versatile. It breaks up nicely at around 5-6. For distortion at lower volumes, I recommend a Fulltone Fulldrive 2 for distortion; matches well with this amp. I will have to check out the Kendrick speaker after your review.

Mark, I made the same switch, from a HRDLX to a DRRI and have not looked back. 22 watts is plenty, and the tone is better.

52Teleman

Australia

Feb 22nd, 2000 07:59 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Lightnin'

Great review. I've had a DRRI for four years and totally love it. Putting NOS tubes and rebiasing also helps "age" the tone. The next thing I'm going to do is change the speaker. Like you, I'm happy with the stock speaker, but I'm always looking for something better. I'm investigating some Weber speakers, but you've got me interested in the Kendrick Brownframes.

Does Kendrick have a web site?

Cheers,

-Dave-

White Lightning

USA

Feb 22nd, 2000 09:41 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Dave,

I don't know how to post a hyperlink. The web address for Kendrick is:

www.kendrick-amplifiers.com

Lightnin'

Chris Greene - FDP Host

USA

Feb 23rd, 2000 01:21 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

WL, it's in the FAQ. You do it lika dis:

Kendrick

White Lightning

USA

Feb 23rd, 2000 01:22 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

CG, tanks, you da man!

52Teleman

Australia

Feb 23rd, 2000 07:24 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Lightnin' and Chris,

Thanks guys. Is there a link for Kendrick in the "Links" section? I couldn't see one (but that doesn't mean anything!).

-Dave-

RockyA

USA

Feb 25th, 2000 09:12 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Lightnin',

I presume in your review you were talking straight guitar to amp, no effects or stomp boxes? Did you replace the speakers yourself? What speakers were stock in there? I've heard complaints about speakers before concerning the CVR, but the one I have came with Jensen P10R's and after 12 hrs of use, the extreme brightness is gone and I really like these speakers, like a 59 tweed tone.

Chris Greene - FDP Host

USA

Feb 25th, 2000 10:32 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

52Teleman,

There is not a link to Kendrick in our links section. The links that are there are for companies that I've done business with or are known to me from business dealings with others I trust. Others are sponsors of contests, etc.

White Lightning

Northern Michigan (Troll)

Feb 28th, 2000 11:40 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

RockyA,
The stock speaker in the DRRI is an Emi. that's supposed to be a repro of a vintage Jensen. It sounded great to me, just a little bright. I could have lived with it, and I'm sure that it would have mellowed with a little use. I just put the Kendrick in there because I already knew that I loved the sound of the speaker because of what it did for my '65 Pro Reverb.
I'm glad you're digging the sound of your CVR, those a awesome amps too.

BTW- my DRRI has just become my main gig amp for my weekend warrior bar jobs. I am in love with the way the amp sounds for blues & classic rock. I wish I would have discovered this amp sooner. My Pro reverb will only be going out when I play outdoor gigs now. Or maybe I'll just get another Deluxe Reverb and run them together... ;)

Lightnin'

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6HOTROD6

USA

Feb 21st, 2001 04:19 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I HAVE A FRIEND THAT GOT ONE A WHILE BACK AND I PLAYED THRU IT THE OTHER DAY. I HAVENT HEARD ONE YET AND WAS VERY IMPRESSED. I THINK ITS THE BEST AMP I HAVE HEARD THAT YOU CAN GET TODAY. I HAVE A SFDR AND WE HAD THEM SIDE BY SIDE. THE RI IS A FANTASTIC AMP BUT I THINK THE OLD TIMER HAS THE UPPER HAND IN THE BATTLE. I CANT WAIT UNTIL I CHANGE THE OLD TIRED CAPS AND SPEAKER, BUT I BET MY NEIGHBORS CAN HA HA HA!! ANYWAY CONGRATS AND GOOD LUCK TO THE NEW DR OWNERS.

MLC

I dream in 3-color sunburst

Feb 21st, 2001 11:44 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Thanks for the reviews and updates, Lightnin'.

I've had my DRRI for almost a year now, and I absolutely love this amp. I re-tubed with a NOS collection and it got even better. The stock speaker has broken in nicely, but I think it will always be a bright amp (not a bad thing).

I have considered a speaker replacement and was leaning toward the Weber C12N (many, many rave reviews), but your recommendation of the Kendrick Brownframe is interesting. A friend of mine had good things to say about them, too.
Thanks!

Jim Rumson

(21)™, Cyber-Fart©,~Centurion of The Black Hole®~

Feb 22nd, 2001 08:36 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Thank you all for your excellent reviews and input. I have learned a lot about my DRRI from reading your posts and experimenting.

I am so happy with my DRRI that I have sold my "Evil" Twin, and now perform solely with the Deluxe. It is plenty loud for almost all my live engagements, and when it's not, it sounds great miked up.

FWIW: I had the same beef about the stock speaker as most of you, when I first purchased the amp, but it has broken in and become pleasingly mellow, while still retaining its Fender "cutting power".

My $0.02 Jim (21)™(8^)}

fairgame

USA

Mar 6th, 2001 10:32 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I've also had the pleasure/pain of owning a reissue for about 6 months now. First I want to thank all the members on the list who posted responses to my original (I too agree, that these amps with a stock Emminence tend to be very bright.... I just don't have the patience to "play it in"). With that said, I replaced all the Tubes w/ NOS Mullard preamps, and Brimar 6V6 power tubes (thanks Mike @KCA). Next step, was a replacement Weber C12N speaker.... what a HUGE difference. Much smoother sounding, responsive dynamics, and a medium volume lead tone that is just wonderful (especially with a little boost from Fulldrive II).
If you have the oppurtunity to pick one of these up, go for it!!! They are wonderful sounding amps (yes, it's worth the added expense in tubes/biasing, and speaker (unless you happen across an older one with some playing time on it.... I have heard a couple of these amps with the speakers "broken in", and they do sound very good.

FairGame

fl_799

In Hell

Mar 6th, 2001 04:25 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I a/b's this amp to one of my original Blackface DReverb and it was right in there....great amp. Job well done.

Stratcat

Guitar Heaven

Mar 15th, 2001 06:53 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

IMHO this is the best amp in the Fender line.
Tube Tone to the Max.

Roadhouse Bruce

Wales. Gt. Britain

Mar 25th, 2001 10:43 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Just got one myself and I love the way you can play off the guitar's controls without playing with those on the amp too much. I like the bright sound and when it's not appropriate |I just turn down the tone on the guitar.
I just wish I could sing !!!!! ???????
Best wishes,
Bruce

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