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swampyankee

olde New England

If you can't play good, play loud
Aug 22nd, 2013 06:41 AM   Edit   Profile  

So I installed a new reverb tank in my CVR last nite and fired it up for a test run. I haven't been playing much lately, and if I do it's been acoustic, so I'm a bit rusty. I plugged in the Strat I got last Christmas and tuned it up.
Now remember, this amp is box stock as far as I know. The guy I bought it from didn't mention anything about any modifications. But I gotta tell ya, it made my Strat pop, quack, jangle and drive just as well as any Fender amp I've played, and it's got all the reverb I would ever want! While I was troubleshooting the reverb problem I had swapped out the stock 12AT7 for a Groove Tube I had lying around, so I don't know if that would make a diff.
I found it to be a pretty dynamic amp. I only had it up to 2, maybe 2.5 but at that volume it was bell-clear and resonant. Pretty comparable to my old DRRI. Was there a hiss? Not noticeable at that volume. Maybe my ear is not that discerning, and I'll have to play my other guitars (335, Gretsch, Tele) thru it to really get a full spectrum but I'm sonically satisfied with it as is. For now...


swampyankee

olde New England

If you can't play good, play loud
Sep 4th, 2013 12:31 PM   Edit   Profile  

After reading more about the CVR and how popular the mods are I began to wonder if my amp had any of the mods done to it. My CVR doesn't seem to be lacking in the reverb dept. Reverb on 2 is perfectly adequate for my tastes. Last night I cranked it to 10 and there seems to be plenty of 'verb to go around. The other thing is, this amp doesn't seem to have any hiss beyond what I recall that is common to any amp I've owned, although I have nothing currently to compare it with.
So I began to wonder if the amp has been modded. As I understand it, one way to tell is if reverb exists on both Normal and Bright channels, so I plugged in to the Normal channel and lo and behold - no 'verb.
I re-read the Moyer mods as Hammond so kindly reposted, and I looked for a bias pot located in the spot in the instructions and found none. Are there any other external telltales or do I have to pull the chassis and inspect the wiring for mods?
And could one do some but not all the mods as described in Hammond's post?

Hammond101
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Sep 5th, 2013 08:27 PM   Edit   Profile  

Sure, you don't have to do all the mods. Just the ones you want.

Jimi Ray Clapton
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Norwegian Wood

Sep 28th, 2013 01:36 PM   Edit   Profile  

Never thought the day would come, but I have now sold my CVR.

However, I sold it to a friend/band buddy and can still use it anytime I want. :)

urby

Seattle, Wa

Oct 6th, 2013 06:27 PM   Edit   Profile  

"However, I sold it to a friend/band buddy and can still use it anytime I want. :)"

I did that with my old '70 Strat and '65 Super Reverb more than 20 years ago. My friend still has them.

He asked if I wanted to buy them back and I thought "why should I, they're available almost any time i want", which has been real seldom.

I still own my modified '95 blonde CVR and a '65 Vibrolux Reverb. They sound nothing alike.


swampyankee
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olde New England

If you can't play good, play loud
Oct 10th, 2013 05:42 AM   Edit   Profile  

"I still own my modified '95 blonde CVR and a '65 Vibrolux Reverb. They sound nothing alike."

In what ways? The mods are supposed to make the CVR into a '63 Vibroverb, correct?


carsten

on the rhine

Oct 10th, 2013 11:13 AM   Edit   Profile  

Hi swampyankee!

Yes, probably - but a ´63 Vibroverb is still quite different from a ´65 Vibrolux Reverb ;-)

But yes, I´d also like to hear more about the tonal differences!

cheers - C.

Jolex123

USA

Jan 11th, 2014 02:24 PM   Edit   Profile  

Hey fellow CVR lovers! First time to the forum. ALL the earlier posts have been so helpful in my decision to purchase my first CVR (1995 blonde)... Thank you! Totally love the amp, and I could drone on and on here ( which I may do later ;)) but for now, I need some input. I bought a "time capsule" amp; totally clean, not a spot on the tolex, foot pedal still in paper bag in back, etc. I thought it was unmodded but reading some earlier posts, I'm now thinking that it might be :(. Moderate amount of hiss present (so assume no MM mod) BUT, I get reverb on both normal and bright channels. Vibrato too. I haven't dug around into the electronics, tubes, etc (because I don't know anything about that stuff) but from looking at the tubes, speakers, etc, it all appears to be stock. Also, I trust the seller (professional independent guitar store) who told me it was dead stock. Any and all thoughts would be helpful...thx!!!

N.O.Player

USA

Jan 12th, 2014 07:50 AM   Edit   Profile  

Jolex123, it sounds like it may be stock with a moderate amount of hiss and reverb and vibrato on both channels. The mods I've read, puts the effects on one channel usually (bright channel I think). Except in the case of my amp tech, who managed to keep the reverb on both channels and still get that deep Fender reverb everyone likes. But yes it sounds like the amp is still stock.

Jolex123

USA

Jan 12th, 2014 01:10 PM   Edit   Profile  

Thx NO Player. Maybe I had it backwards; that reverb & vibrato are normally on both channels but only on one when modded; correct?

N.O.Player

USA

Jan 13th, 2014 01:33 PM   Edit   Profile  

Correct.

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Aug 20th, 2014 11:14 AM   Edit   Profile  

I thought it might be appropriate to get this thread going again now that Fender is no longer listing the Custom Vibrolux Reverb on their website. That's usually the sign that it's been discontinued. But after a 20 year run I'd have to say it's been a success.

Various sites say that this is because of the upcoming introduction of the '68 Custom Vibrolux Reverb that had some discussion earlier this year. We'll see. The new model sounds interesting.

urby
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Seattle, Wa

Aug 20th, 2014 11:25 AM   Edit   Profile  

"In what ways? The mods are supposed to make the CVR into a '63 Vibroverb, correct?"

Carsten is correct. It makes the CVR sound like a Vibroverb, not a Vibrolux. Confusing, I know.

A '63 Vibroverb is a brown face circuit, which is a little dark sounding. A vintage '65 VR is a blackface circuit with shimmering highs. A totally different sound.

swampyankee
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olde New England

If you can't play good, play loud
Jan 20th, 2015 01:01 PM   Edit   Profile  

Funny how time changes peoples' opinions.

If you read back some of the earlier reviews and comments about the CVR it really handed the amp a bad rap. Hiss, no 'verb, no headroom, etc. It was no wonder I paid much less for my CVR than what a DRRI was selling for at the time.
But then the mods came along, and apparently pretty simple to do (mine already had them) which "transformed" the amp and made it into a poor man's Vibroverb.
Nowadays people call it a "classic" Fender amp, "killer Fender tones" and "unique".
Granted, those comments are post Moyer-mod, but overall people seem to be finally beginning to appreciate the niche that this amp fills. Classic Brown-face tones without the cost of a vintage or more rare '63 Vibroverb RI.
Me? I think it's a perfect amp for what I play. I'm a Fender guy, but I like to get a little bluesy-jazzy and it's a great tone in between the DRRI and Tweed Deluxes that I once had.

(This message was last edited by swampyankee at 11:02 AM, Feb 5th, 2016)

carsten

on the rhine

Jan 21st, 2015 09:37 AM   Edit   Profile  

Hi swampyankee!

Mh, not me, I´m still in the hissy, noisy, no reverb-camp ;-)
I traded a perfectly good DRRI towards a CVR just because I already had my ´66 Deluxe, but man, I should have kept that DRRI ;-)

With some mods to get rid of the annoying hiss and add a bit of REVERB it would have been a nice amp I guess. But before I could entertain the thought I stumbled upon an sf Bandmaster Reverb and I sold the CVR asap...

cheers - C.





ruger9

USA/NJ

Aug 27th, 2018 06:53 AM   Edit   Profile  

WOW... 3 YEARS!!!

Super-duper late to this party... I've wanted a CVR for years, just never got around to it, then my cousin had one- this thing is pristine; it could easily be NOS. We wonder if maybe it "fell off a truck" somewhere LOL. $400.

NOW.... onto the mods... reverb for sure (I'm going try changing just the pan before dealing with soldering the cap on a PCB). And speakers (going to try 1, then 2, Greenbacks, I think...)

Tubes are a given, always.

Oh- and I'm going to need a bias pot... might try tackling that myself, not sure yet... I need to know I KEEPING the amp for a long while before I go about making that kind of a change.

(This message was last edited by ruger9 at 08:54 AM, Aug 27th, 2018)

ruger9

USA/NJ

Sep 7th, 2018 04:43 PM   Edit   Profile  

I guess I'm too late.... crickets....

urby

Seattle, Wa

Not quite my tempo
Sep 14th, 2018 11:27 AM   Edit   Profile  

I would look into the mod that gives you more headroom and eliminates the hiss.

urby

Seattle, Wa

Not quite my tempo
Sep 17th, 2018 01:04 PM   Edit   Profile  

Negative feedback loop.


ruger9

USA/NJ

Sep 28th, 2018 01:34 AM   Edit   Profile  

Nah. I like the early breakup, the amp is plenty loud enough without increasing headroom.

I am going to install a bias pot, Fender always biases stuff cold. and I always crank the bias up.

I just put a pair of Cannabis Rex 10s in it, the Jensens P10Rs can't handle the low end without farting out.

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